16.5 " JAE rigger

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  • 4X4FABGUY
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17

    #76
    Hi Guys I have been looking at this thread and I wanted to make some comments, it seems your looking for a cheap reliable rigger set up and I think I found it. The boat in the video Chuck E Cheese posted above was built by me, Thanks for posting that Chuck, I never did shoot any video of it before I sold it to rumdog. It looks like its still running great. My intention when building that boat was to go real fast for cheap. I got plans for the jap rigger way back when they were first posted and I had to try the flat sided sponsons. They seemed weird to me, how could that work ya know, so I made that lil guy to try some. The results were good as you can see from the video. I had never built a rigger that turned so well or went so fast for so little money. Unless you or rumdog changed anything that boat is powered by a mystery brand 2830-3850kv outrunner motor and a mystery brand 30 amp spd con, Both air cooled. And very fast, Like Chuck said thats a 427 prop on it now, it will go faster with a 430 And I had good luck with a cut down and very thin 432. I did mill some small cooling fins into the motor mount but thats it for cooling. That set up can be had for under 25 shipped, motor and control. I ran 40c 3s 1050 rhino lipos that can be had for 15 bucks each or less on sale. I made very simple hardware from sheet stainless for the rudder and strut. The rudder turned out to be too weak during high speed tumbles across the water. But the motor and controller worked great, air cooled! I even ran the one in my cat on 4s with no problems and they work great with a car radio, no pistix. I wanted to make a build thread so folks could go fast cheap and I posted here or on rrr I cant remember, but no one was into minis at the time I guess, I got almost no replys? Maybe nows the time to try again. I do miss the lil guy. I wanted one with more room in the tub but I have not built it yet. Heres a pic. Please ask questions if you have any and I will help if I can. Mike M

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    • Simon.O.
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Oct 2007
      • 1521

      #77
      Fwiw my mini is based on this bright coloured rigger !!
      See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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      • martin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 2887

        #78
        I now only run mini, micro boats.Re motor, props,cells etc Im running a 15" mono deep v on a 2836 outrunner motor which im now up to 3800kv on 3s 40c-90c lipo. Started at 3000kv & worked up to 3450kv then 3600 & now on 3800kv all on 3s. All runs done on an Octura metal X435 sharpened & balanced prop, Its kinda quick for a mono. Re esc i normally use Etti 45 amp but their quite expensive for what they are but still a very good esc as im sure those that use Etti will confirm. So thought i would try one of the many cheapo esc around as it was only £13 or $20 & cant believe how good this esc is working considering how hard im pushing this esc, Its a 60 amp by the way. Motor also is only £12 or $19, This thing is doing around mid to high 40s in a straight line. So this is the set up i will be trying in the Mini Sprint when i get one & also making another from the JAE plans when they become available. Ive been experimenting with this set up for around 6 months now running every week sometimes going out 3-4 times a week. So i havnt literally just used this set up now & again. Cant wait to try this new boat when its available. Thanks.

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        • monojeff
          Moderator
          • Nov 2010
          • 2562

          #79
          Originally posted by martin
          I now only run mini, micro boats.Re motor, props,cells etc Im running a 15" mono deep v on a 2836 outrunner motor which im now up to 3800kv on 3s 40c-90c lipo. Started at 3000kv & worked up to 3450kv then 3600 & now on 3800kv all on 3s. All runs done on an Octura metal X435 sharpened & balanced prop, Its kinda quick for a mono. Re esc i normally use Etti 45 amp but their quite expensive for what they are but still a very good esc as im sure those that use Etti will confirm. So thought i would try one of the many cheapo esc around as it was only £13 or $20 & cant believe how good this esc is working considering how hard im pushing this esc, Its a 60 amp by the way. Motor also is only £12 or $19, This thing is doing around mid to high 40s in a straight line. So this is the set up i will be trying in the Mini Sprint when i get one & also making another from the JAE plans when they become available. Ive been experimenting with this set up for around 6 months now running every week sometimes going out 3-4 times a week. So i havnt literally just used this set up now & again. Cant wait to try this new boat when its available. Thanks.
          What esc is it that your using???
          OSE GIFTING ELF
          HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!

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          • martin
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 2887

            #80
            Originally posted by monojeff
            What esc is it that your using???
            The esc is listed as an RC Max which i think may also be the same as an SP but not 100% sure on that, Thay also go up to 200amp for around £40 or $60. Good value if someone wants to build a cheap 5-6s boat as long as you are sensible. Only time will tell on this esc but at $20 a go for a 60 amp its less than a 1/3rd of the price i pay for the 45amp ones i normally use. Thanks.

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            • wrongway
              Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 72

              #81
              AWSOME JIM
              Just awsome! I want one now.

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              • Rumdog
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2009
                • 6453

                #82
                I bought that rigger from 4x4fabguy. It handled EXCELLENT! Now i miss it!

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                • Jim Bob
                  Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 42

                  #83
                  A new video of my "JAE mini sprint" I put in a new motor!

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                  • martin
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2887

                    #84
                    Looking good, Should be even faster on glass water. Can you give details on motor used, Also what type of bearings / bushings do you use in the strut assembly ie floating brass bush, ball races, lead teflon or another type. Thanks Martin.

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                    • BILL OXIDEAN
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1494

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Jim Bob
                      A new video of my "JAE mini sprint" I put in a new motor!

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDk8cmcEocs
                      That little mother$%#%^ is RIPPING! Whats in it??!?

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                      • lectriglide
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 538

                        #86
                        Originally posted by BILL OXIDEAN
                        That little mother$%#%^ is RIPPING! Whats in it??!?
                        Yeah, Yeah inquiring minds want to know!! I've got a pre-built one coming but don't have a motor yet (but now I know) so PLEASE tell us your set-up.

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                        • Brushless55
                          Creator
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9488

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Jim Bob
                          A new video of my "JAE mini sprint" I put in a new motor!

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDk8cmcEocs
                          Holly crap!
                          looks like perfect water for those nutso speeds
                          but please tell us what motor and cell count are you using...
                          .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                          • electric
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • May 2008
                            • 1744

                            #88
                            Patiently waiting for the motor/prop/batt combo used....... I have one pre-built and two that I am building...yes I am building a fleet of these for the family to race....

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                            • Rich
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 551

                              #89
                              I think this little boat is my ticket for learning riggers. ....Subscribed
                              24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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                              • Jim Bob
                                Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 42

                                #90
                                40 amp mystery ESC http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9482
                                3S 2650 mah battery
                                4300 kV in runner motor
                                1630 prop de-tongued and back cut
                                1/4" x 1/8" stainless steel bearings in the strut
                                I do not suggest this motor/ battery combo for everyday driving. It is extreme. If I were building a fleet for my family I would go with a 3800 kv motor. i Hope ive got all your questiions answered.

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