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  • supafastsupra2
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 103

    #1

    Need help with prop choice

    Hey guys, i have a mean machine running on 4s2p, align 600xl rewound to ~2200kv, and a barracuda 125 esc. Currently running an x440/3 sharpened and balanced, but its just not running right. It barely gets on plane after cavitating excessively. I've tried the strut at different depths to no avail. I guess the motor is too much for the prop so it simply won't grab, so what would be a good prop to use for this motor? Thanks,

    Daniel
    Last edited by supafastsupra2; 06-08-2009, 07:06 PM.
  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #2
    I'd try an M445...
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • supafastsupra2
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 103

      #3
      Any others? I'm going to need to order it so i may as well get 2 or 3 different props

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      • Blackjack-sven
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 371

        #4
        I'd try the Octura p735
        HK Genesis, DF Vortex, Baja 5T, Lazer ZX-5 sp, XXX, 8T, P51-D Mustang Shangrila, GP Giant P51-D Mustang, Blade 400 3D, with way too many more to list.

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        • Heath M
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 806

          #5
          X440/3 might be a good choice as well.
          Brisbane,QLD, Aussie

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          • jingalls007
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Mar 2009
            • 1015

            #6
            The 440/3 is my favorite with this boat (thus far) but I run a Hydra 240 to give me some wiggle room with props. The Cuda 125 won't allow for as much prop testing so I would also recommend the X637 (43.8 mph average) the X440/3 averaged low 50's and temps were low. Make sure to set your timing to *normal on the Cuda 125, that will help keep temps down. (*= recommended factory setting)

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            • jingalls007
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2009
              • 1015

              #7
              Originally posted by supafastsupra2
              Hey guys, i have a mean machine running on 4s2p, align 600xl rewound to ~2200kv, and a barracuda 125 esc. Currently running an x440 sharpened and balanced, but its just not running right. It barely gets on plane after cavitating excessively. I've tried the strut at different depths to no avail. I guess the motor is too much for the prop so it simply won't grab, so what would be a good prop to use for this motor? Thanks,

              Daniel
              I would also make sure your strut is set about 3/16" above the sponsons with about - 2 degrees on the prop. That could be the issue, not the actual prop itself.

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              • supafastsupra2
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 103

                #8
                Originally posted by jingalls007
                I would also make sure your strut is set about 3/16" above the sponsons with about - 2 degrees on the prop. That could be the issue, not the actual prop itself.
                hmm I will try this, i've been running it flat the whole time. You mean -2 degrees as in pointing down at the prop end right?

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                • Fluid
                  Fast and Furious
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8012

                  #9
                  I'd try the Octura p735
                  Bad idea, very few cats like lifting props like that one. Plus it's 1/8" shaft hole means a new prop shaft...the x442 or x637 are better choices. There can be problems with "rewound" motors, the actual Kv may not even be close to what you were told.

                  OP - You want to use about two degrees UP at the prop end to help lift the bows. If that's too much just go back to 1 degree or flat. To do this set the boat on a FLAT table and measure carefully. 3/16" to 1/4" above the sponsons is about right too. You will never get it set correctly trying to "eyeball it" without a flat reference.



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                  • egneg
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4670

                    #10
                    Try a Prather 220S that has been detongued and back cut.
                    IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                    • supafastsupra2
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 103

                      #11
                      another question my 440/3 has relief cuts, you think if i get a fresh 440/3 without these cuts and just sharpen & balance it would be better?

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                      • egneg
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 4670

                        #12
                        What do you mean by relief cuts - is it bar cut?
                        IMPBA 20481S D-12

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                        • supafastsupra2
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 103

                          #13
                          Originally posted by egneg
                          What do you mean by relief cuts - is it bar cut?
                          my prop is sharpened and balanced and has cuts in the center which i were told are called "relief cuts"

                          BTW i really like your Xzess II :)

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                          • jingalls007
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1015

                            #14
                            Originally posted by supafastsupra2
                            my prop is sharpened and balanced and has cuts in the center which i were told are called "relief cuts"

                            BTW i really like your Xzess II :)
                            I've never heard nor seen that, try the prop as it is to see if that makes a difference before buying another.

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                            • egneg
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4670

                              #15
                              Originally posted by supafastsupra2
                              my prop is sharpened and balanced and has cuts in the center which i were told are called "relief cuts"

                              BTW i really like your Xzess II :)

                              I will have to check into this type of cut and get back to you. BTW thanks for the comps on the XS2.
                              IMPBA 20481S D-12

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