How do I convert pitch of a Grim prop?

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  • Meniscus
    Refuse the box exists!
    • Jul 2008
    • 3225

    #1

    How do I convert pitch of a Grim prop?

    I know the Octura props such as Y535 has a pitch of 1.5.

    So what pitch is the Grim L38 x 55? Is this really a simple conversion from metric to standard? In which case it would have a pitch of 2.165? That just doesn't seem right.

    Once again, I'm admitting I'm an idiot with props, LOL!
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  • Jesse J
    scale FE racer
    • Aug 2008
    • 7119

    #2
    That's how I've done it, but then I will be watching to see what people say. It always sounds like a super high pitch prop calculated that way. But it would be some funky-ness if it weren't right....
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    • egneg
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Feb 2008
      • 4670

      #3
      The Y535 has a pitch of 2.125"
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      • Meniscus
        Refuse the box exists!
        • Jul 2008
        • 3225

        #4
        Thanks Egneg for clarifying. Is that the total pitch? as calculated times the diameter?

        I'm thinking the pitch of the Grim is 1.4473, so the total pitch is 55mm or 2.1654?

        I'm so confused!
        Last edited by Meniscus; 05-22-2009, 05:46 PM.
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        • D. Newland
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Dec 2007
          • 1030

          #5
          Here's what I know:

          The 40/52 3 blade Grim prop acted just like an Octura X442/2 both in speed and amp draw.

          With that limited example, I'd bet the 38/55 (2 blade?) would act like an Octura X438/2...that's at least the prop I would run to compare it.

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          • Fluid
            Fast and Furious
            • Apr 2007
            • 8011

            #6
            In general it is as simple as a normal metric conversion. The diameter of the 38x55 prop is 38mm or 1.496". The pitch is 55 mm or 2.165". The pitch ratio is 1.44:1. What the numbers do not tell you is the lifting characteristics of the prop or its blade area. So, comparing props of similar dimension but of different manufacturer can be problematic.



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            • Meniscus
              Refuse the box exists!
              • Jul 2008
              • 3225

              #7
              The Grim 40/52 is not a lifting prop, or at least the website doesn't identify it as such.

              LOL, I'm still confused. Thanks for the input Dave!
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              • Darin Jordan
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                • Apr 2007
                • 8335

                #8
                Originally posted by Meniscus
                Is that the total pitch? as calculated times the diameter?

                I'm thinking the pitch of the Grim is 1.4473, so the total pitch is 55mm or 2.1654?

                I'm so confused!
                It's pretty simple on this series of prop... The prop is 38mm in diameter, and 55mm pitch... that's AVERAGE pitch, I believe... If you measure it at the trailing edge, it'll likely read higher, and toward the leading edge lower... Advertised pitch is usually the average for the blade.
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                • Meniscus
                  Refuse the box exists!
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3225

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fluid
                  In general it is as simple as a normal metric conversion. The diameter of the 38x55 prop is 38mm or 1.496". The pitch is 55 mm or 2.165". The pitch ratio is 1.44:1. What the numbers do not tell you is the lifting characteristics of the prop or its blade area. So, comparing props of similar dimension but of different manufacturer can be problematic.



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                  OK, so I think I'm getting it. So my guess at the pitch ratio is close, even though I didn't refer to it with that term, keeping in mind the the different characteristics from different manufacturers.

                  Thanks Jay.
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                  • Jesse J
                    scale FE racer
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7119

                    #10
                    At least it is simple for SOMEbody.... What does the pitch ratio have to do with anything?
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                    • z400
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1311

                      #11
                      you can simply type in the number in google.

                      For example.

                      55mm to inches.


                      This is what google says.
                      55 millimeters = 2.16535433 inches
                      Z
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                      • Meniscus
                        Refuse the box exists!
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3225

                        #12
                        Thanks guys. I appreciate everyone input!
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                        • egneg
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4670

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                          It's pretty simple on this series of prop... The prop is 38mm in diameter, and 55mm pitch... that's AVERAGE pitch, I believe... If you measure it at the trailing edge, it'll likely read higher, and toward the leading edge lower... Advertised pitch is usually the average for the blade.
                          Exactly most props have a progressive pitch versus a flat pitch. Average has different meanings depending on the criteria used. Different manufacturers do not use the same progression, blade shape, etc. The same is true with full size props as these are often defined as low, medium, and high pitch. I had an article downloaded that wanted to have this data quantified and standardized (based on mathematical measurements and formulas). I will look for it as it made more sense to me than having to guess what prop would do what. If this data is recorded and applied to different applications it would help a great deal in the long run as there would be few questions as to what prop to use with what setup.


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                          • Flying Scotsman
                            Fast Electric Adict!
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 5190

                            #14
                            Ben, I think you have lost it mate, my recovery method is at least a huge gulp of scotch

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                            • detox
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2318

                              #15
                              Buy yourself a tape measurer that measures in both millimeters and inches. It is very easy to convert pitch using one. I bought a cheap Husky brand at Homedepot.
                              Last edited by detox; 05-23-2009, 10:36 AM.

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