VS1 with UL-1 FE...Looking to see what run times people are getting

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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #16
    Originally posted by cybercrxt
    Just kinda sucks that this technology is so unsafe, and it targeted towards people that have no knowledge of this type of battery. Its definately a big boys toy.
    I think there is a lot of fear-hype out there...

    Charge them, run them within the reasonable discharge limit, and go have fun...

    I can guarantee you that you have been doing damage to your NiMH cells as well... they're just in hard cases and you can't visibly see it!

    I'd run the packs you have and just watch them. If they get considerably worse or wont' take a charge, etc., then stop using them. Otherwise, have fun.
    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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    • cybercrxt
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 2909

      #17
      Thanks for the calming advise Darin. I will be doing that in ohhhh... 33 minutes! VS1 and Titan 29 time! I need to stay at the house to finish my boat builds I have underway! But, its summer time, the builds can wait! haha
      Laser cut, birch plywood rc race boat kits- WWW.MLBOATWORKSRC.COM WWW.DINOGYLIPOS.COM

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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #18
        Originally posted by cybercrxt
        Thanks for the calming advise Darin. I will be doing that in ohhhh... 33 minutes! VS1 and Titan 29 time! I need to stay at the house to finish my boat builds I have underway! But, its summer time, the builds can wait! haha
        Right on.... Just do as David suggested above and double check everything the first couple of times out... If the packs don't get worse or exhibit any bad signs... run with it... Just keep the runtimes reasonable.
        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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        • Flying Scotsman
          Fast Electric Adict!
          • Jun 2007
          • 5190

          #19
          My, Canadian 5 cents Quote... Also, every time I run, I run to the 3.0v cut on my ESC, and when I recharge, the packs are refilling with 5350mah. How can a pack that is rated at 5000mah charge more in than what its even rated? I charge at 5.0a using a Thunder Power 610c charger.


          If you run to the 3.0v cutoff on your ESC every time, you will damage the batteries and you state you are putting in more capacity than the batteries are rated for. I think your cutoff voltage on the ESC is not stable.

          Douggie

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          • Brushless55
            Creator
            • Oct 2008
            • 9488

            #20
            I have several packs that get a slight puff to them after running them. I let them set for 15min then recharge them, they run just fine..
            No need to worry about a slight puff on your packs..
            .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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            • AlanN
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 334

              #21
              Originally posted by Brushless55
              No need to worry about a slight puff on your packs..

              If your packs are puffed BEFORE you run them you are asking for trouble. Plus the fact that when your cells puff you are hurting them. They won't live long after that or if they do their performance will fall off a cliff.

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #22
                Hello, slight puff.. when I let them set for 15min they rest and are just like new, no puff..

                I have over 50 runs on two packs that do this once and a while, and they run awesome!
                To many people worry about this.
                I have run Lipos for several years, and not one problem with any of my batteries..
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • Gary
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 1105

                  #23
                  Just my 2 cents but i have had a couple batteries puff so bad that smoke was pouring out of them. They where so hot and swollen i could not pull them out.I had to push the boat under water to put out the fire to be. They where real old and puffed a little on a few runs just like discribed and where pushed real hard in a SAW run. OOOPS !!!!
                  PT-45, 109mph, finally gave up after last bad crash
                  H&M 1/8 Miss Bud 73 mph
                  Chris Craft 16 mph

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                  • cybercrxt
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 2909

                    #24
                    Good news on my end. I ran both my boats tonight, 4 minute runs, came back, and recharged them, none used over 80%, and all of the packs were balanced either .009v or better, the closest balance being .003v. I think 4 minutes run time is not bad, and honestly, I still had all that punch just like when I first put the boat in the water, whereas running them down you could tell the voltage drop off so its kind of pointless to continue running. So I feel all my packs are ok, and safe. Thanks for everyone's help, Mike

                    Oh, and I tried my GP3700 nimh packs on the titan 29 with SV27 power..lol, what a joke, the boat looked like a slow moving turd on the water. I think I will stick with lipo power all the way!
                    Laser cut, birch plywood rc race boat kits- WWW.MLBOATWORKSRC.COM WWW.DINOGYLIPOS.COM

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                    • Meniscus
                      Refuse the box exists!
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3225

                      #25
                      Know the danger, know the precautions, don't take any unnecessary chances, and know what to do if something goes bad.

                      It's always worth letting them burn rather than injuring yourself. The batteries and the boat can be replaced, but I can't say the same for you.

                      My point is, have fun, but be aware of what "could" happen. The main reason why I posted some precautions is so that readers later on will be aware and heed warnings.

                      It is quite often that these packs last and long time and many have repeated success with them. I'm going to stop now, LOL
                      IMPBA: 7-Time FE World Record Holder "Don't think outside the box. Rather, refuse to admit that the box exists in the first place!"

                      MGM Controllers - Giant Power Lipos - ML Boatworks - Wholt's Wire Drives & Struts - Nano-Oil

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                      • Brushless55
                        Creator
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9488

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Gary
                        Just my 2 cents but i have had a couple batteries puff so bad that smoke was pouring out of them. They where so hot and swollen i could not pull them out.I had to push the boat under water to put out the fire to be. They where real old and puffed a little on a few runs just like discribed and where pushed real hard in a SAW run. OOOPS !!!!

                        Old lipos pushed hard.... ya ooops!
                        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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