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  • Rumdog
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2009
    • 6453

    #1

    Hydro guy's...HELP!

    Alright, here's the deal. I'm about to build a Delta Force vortex hydro. I have built the mini hydro previously. I'd like to get a few opinions on rudder placement. I've noticed that a few guys are putting the rudder on the starboard side of this hull. Why is that? I've always been under the impression that it goes on the port side. The only reasoning for this that I can come up with is that maybe the bit of lift the rudder creates along with prop walk may be a little much for a 22'' hull. I mounted it port side on my mini. I did offset the motor/driveline slightly starboard though to help prevent propwalk seems to work really good. I dont think that it would turn nearly as well with the rudder on the starboard side,.... but I guess i've never tried. Any help here would be much appreciated guys! thanks!
  • AndyKunz
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2008
    • 1437

    #2
    You know if you just put that question on google, you'll find it's a pretty common one. You'll get answers from all kinds of experts and their reasonings behind it. My riggers have it on the right, my Sport and Scale boats on the left.

    Andy
    Spektrum Development Team

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    • Rumdog
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 6453

      #3
      Thanks Andy, anyone else have any inout on this? Anyone had a bad experience either way?

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      • JimClark
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 5907

        #4
        Put it where it works out best gear wise
        "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
        Billy Graham

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        • TRUCKPULL
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 2969

          #5
          For racing Oval clockwise, Port is best.

          Also in the event that you have to make a correction to the left, the
          boat will have less tendency to lift the starboard sponson and flip.

          This is not saying that the boat will not flip on a left turn correction at high speed.
          But it will take more left correction to lift the right sponson.

          Theory - The lift in the rudder on the Port rear will put down force
          on the right sponson.

          So even when turning clockwise it will help hold the right sponson in the water.

          Same as NASCAR putting Wedge in the rear to help make the car turn.

          Another advantage is that with the rudder mounted all the way to the left, and the servo mounted to PULL the rudder rather then push to make a right turn.

          Larry
          Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
          Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
          Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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          • Jeff Wohlt
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jan 2008
            • 2716

            #6
            I always thought putting it on the opposite side of the turnfin was key. The reasoning was the turn fin churns the water and the rudder can lose bite if on the starboard side.
            www.rcraceboat.com

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            • Apples1
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 406

              #7
              i was always under the impression that the rudder needed to go on the inside of the direction you are racing ie clockwise needs to be starboard, i thought the theroy was to give the boat a little drag on the side whitch it will be turning, all the Racers in Aus have their rudders on the same side as the turn fin ( for a rigger) starboard ( right side from rear of boat) to help pull it round a right hand corner. could be wrong though.
              returning to boats after a big break

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              • TRUCKPULL
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 2969

                #8
                A rigger is different then a Sport Hydro.

                Larry
                Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                • Rumdog
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6453

                  #9
                  Thanks Larry, this makes perfect sense. If I was setting up my hydro for s.a.w. runs would you suugest starboard sid still?

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                  • TRUCKPULL
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 2969

                    #10
                    I have never run a true SAW boat
                    I would say - NO trun fin + small thin rudder.
                    To compensate for toque of the motor and prop you may use the right side
                    on a SAW Sport Hydro to hold the feft sponson down.

                    Larry
                    Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                    Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                    Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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