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  • Rich
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 551

    #1

    How to reinforce transome

    Hey guys. I wanted your opinion on how to reinforce the transom on my MHZ Oceanspray hull. I put a layer of carbon fiber on it a year ago and I still think it needs more. I haven't gotten around to messing with it until now. Should I just but another layer on it or make an aluminum plate or use wood?

    Thanks for your help.

    Rich
    24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?
  • 1coopgt
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2019
    • 413

    #2
    This question doesn't matter. What makes you think you need to add more reinforcement to your transom. Just curious,

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    • fweasel
      master of some
      • Jul 2016
      • 4281

      #3
      I use 2mm carbon fiber plate to reinforce transoms on nearly every V-bottom hull I build. I scuff up the mating surfaces with very coarse sand paper on both the plate and the hull, wipe down, and glue in place with epoxy. I clamp it in place while drying, if I can. If not, I set the hull up vertically and use heavy metal machining blocks to weigh down the plate as the epoxy dries. I will often clean up the edge along the bottom of the CF plate with a bead of dyed epoxy, using it like bathroom caulk.

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      • Bande1
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2023
        • 684

        #4
        I used a .060 sheet of aluminum from the hobby store, made a paper template. I think it looks cool.

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        • Rich
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 551

          #5
          Originally posted by 1coopgt
          This question doesn't matter. What makes you think you need to add more reinforcement to your transom. Just curious,
          I think it does matter when you need rigidity to keep the rudder and other stuff from flexing under load. My hull needs more rigidity since its a lot of mass to move.

          Originally posted by fweasel
          I use 2mm carbon fiber plate to reinforce transoms on nearly every V-bottom hull I build I scuff up the mating surfaces with very coarse sand paper on both the plate and the hull, wipe down, and glue in place with epoxy. I clamp it in place while drying if I can. If not, I set the hull up vertically and use heavy metal machining blocks to weigh down the plate as the epoxy dries. I will often clean up the edge along the bottom of the CF plate with a bead of dyed epoxy, using it like bathroom caulk.

          fweasel, that looks really good! Hmm aluminum would look good too. Not that anybody will see it.

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          Originally posted by Bande1
          I used a .060 sheet of aluminum from the hobby store, made a paper template. I think it looks cool.
          Bande1 I have some aluminum laying around maybe ill go that route.

          Thanks guys I like both ideas. I am laying carbon on the bottom of the hull now. I will use one of your ideas.
          24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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          • 1coopgt
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2019
            • 413

            #6
            Hope you don't think I meant your question. I meant my question.

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            • Rich
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 551

              #7
              Originally posted by 1coopgt
              Hope you don't think I meant your question. I meant my question.
              That makes sense now, I did think you meant my question.
              24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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              • tbonemcniel
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2020
                • 296

                #8
                I've used carbon fiber plate to reinforce a number of transoms. I cut out a template from a cardboard box, then cut out the plate from that, and epoxy it into place.

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                • T.S.Davis
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6221

                  #9
                  I use aluminum plate on every transom. Then I drill and tap for the hardware because I hate hate hate trying to mess with nuts in there. It's always a PIA.

                  That is unless of course......I'm too lazy to do it. It happens. I've built a lot of boats.
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                  • Peter A
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1486

                    #10
                    What I have done on many boats is cut a piece of carbon cloth to fit inside the transom, stand the boat up on it's transom and fill it with epoxy resin enough to cover the cloth. By standing the boat flat on the transom this gives a nice flat surface inside and extra strength. In hard to get to areas I will also glue in some 3mm ali plate and drill and tap.
                    This system works really well if it is a used hull and you are re doing hardware. Just tape over all the holes and allow the resin to fill them up.
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                    • Rich
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 551

                      #11
                      Thanks guys for all of the suggestions! I'm thinking about going the aluminum plate route and maybe drilling and tapping it because I too hate dealing with nuts! On the other hand though this is a larger hull (mhz ocean spray) so I will have plenty of room to get a socket in there to tighten the nuts.
                      24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6221

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rich
                        Thanks guys for all of the suggestions! I'm thinking about going the aluminum plate route and maybe drilling and tapping it because I too hate dealing with nuts! On the other hand though this is a larger hull (mhz ocean spray) so I will have plenty of room to get a socket in there to tighten the nuts.
                        If you have the room carbon wont add much weight. G10 would work too. Cheaper option.

                        The nuts that I find most annoying are the turn fin brackets on smaller boats.
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                        • Rich
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 551

                          #13
                          Originally posted by T.S.Davis
                          If you have the room carbon wont add much weight. G10 would work too. Cheaper option.

                          The nuts that I find most annoying are the turn fin brackets on smaller boats.
                          Maybe I'll go with carbonfiber since it will save some weight. How do you guys go about cutting the carbonfiber plate?
                          24 R/C vehicles and still counting...What budget?

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                          • Bande1
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2023
                            • 684

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rich
                            Maybe I'll go with carbonfiber since it will save some weight. How do you guys go about cutting the carbonfiber plate?
                            you can just lay the CF on the transom as another layer. If you want a plate make a template from cardboard.

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                            • fweasel
                              master of some
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 4281

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rich
                              Maybe I'll go with carbonfiber since it will save some weight. How do you guys go about cutting the carbonfiber plate?
                              Cover the carbon plate with painters tape, trace your paper template onto it, then cut with a dremel cutoff disc or a diamond bandsaw blade. I use a diamond dust cutoff wheel from dremel for most cuts, my bandsaw for long cuts, and trim to fit with my bench belt sander. I use a HEPA vacuum to capture the dust while cutting and I wear a mask. CF dust is nasty stuff.
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