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  • PlayerUnknown069
    Member
    • Apr 2023
    • 72

    #16
    Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
    https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...7-45%282%29CLL

    1915 - 17 - 45 - (2) CLL
    For a finished, sharpened, Balanced, and hardened, prop.
    get ahold of (Dasboata) here;
    https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...dasboata+props

    Larry
    Thanks! I actually have a Dasboata 3 blade prop that got me in the 70?s.

    I didn?t think of that, thank you!

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    • larryrose11
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 757

      #17
      Monos have a lot of drag in comparison to other hulls.
      That drag translates into more torque in the system for the same speed.
      That is extra amp draw, which burns parts up.
      The KV selected for a mono is typically more conservative.
      Props selection typically use a 1.4 pitch, and a larger diameter.
      There is also the effect of prop cavitation at higher RPM.
      Props seem to do better below 38K on riggers, lower still on monos (not my specialty)
      Cheetah, Super Rio, (Mod) Starship (Mod and sold),

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      • PlayerUnknown069
        Member
        • Apr 2023
        • 72

        #18
        Larry,

        On the ZTW 200amp there is no data log so I can?t monitor the ripple voltage. Do you recommend running a cap pack with the ZTW considering boats have higher amp draw?

        My experience is more with speed run cars and it doesn?t become necessary with the right gearing unless you are drag racing or getting into 130mph plus speeds.

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        • TRUCKPULL
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 2971

          #19
          Sorry - I do not have any experience with ZTW ESC's.
          I would say - give it a try first. If the caps run hot, add some more.

          Larry
          Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
          Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
          Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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          • koen
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2020
            • 358

            #20
            i use ZTW 200 in a mhz phantom with a tp4070 1400kv on 8s and no problem ,the caps are in the cooling circuit so they never get hot the highest temp i measured was 40c with a 5016/3 prop

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            • PlayerUnknown069
              Member
              • Apr 2023
              • 72

              #21
              Originally posted by koen
              i use ZTW 200 in a mhz phantom with a tp4070 1400kv on 8s and no problem ,the caps are in the cooling circuit so they never get hot the highest temp i measured was 40c with a 5016/3 prop
              Thank you! I ordered a cap pack just in case but hoping to not use it.

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              • PlayerUnknown069
                Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 72

                #22
                I have some cooling questions, hoping some of you experts can chime in.

                I have never plumbed in the motor water cooling plate. I always cool the ESC and motor jacket on separate loops.

                Is it worth plumbing in a new pickup and outlet for the motor plate?? I do not want to waste my time on a 1 degree difference.

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                • TRUCKPULL
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 2971

                  #23
                  Is this the motor plate that you are talking about.
                  https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...od=ose-80230-b

                  If so, most people do not connect cooling to it, it has too much restriction in it.

                  Larry
                  Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                  Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                  Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                  • PlayerUnknown069
                    Member
                    • Apr 2023
                    • 72

                    #24
                    Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
                    Is this the motor plate that you are talking about.
                    https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...od=ose-80230-b

                    If so, most people do not connect cooling to it, it has too much restriction in it.

                    Larry
                    Larry, yes that?s the one but with the rear mounting ring.

                    Yeah I see most dont use it. I would run it on its own loop and not restrict my water jacket or esc. But, is it worth the trouble, drilling a carbon hull?.seems like a no?

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                    • TRUCKPULL
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2971

                      #25
                      NO!

                      Larry
                      Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                      Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                      Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                      • Bande1
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2023
                        • 684

                        #26
                        Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
                        Is this the motor plate that you are talking about.
                        https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...od=ose-80230-b

                        If so, most people do not connect cooling to it, it has too much restriction in it.

                        Larry
                        is cooling more efficient if its necked down giving more time for heat transfer?

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                        • jaike5
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 561

                          #27
                          Heat travels to cold. So the colder the surface, the faster the heat transfers.
                          J.

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                          • Capt. Crunch
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 23

                            #28
                            You're going to get the greatest heat trans fer with more water running thru the cooling jacket/esc.
                            Heat transfer is dependant on the difference in temps between the hot side & cold side, more water means it keeps the flow going at a higher rate so water only heats up a little while in the jacket.
                            Best is too have 2 circuits, one for each device.

                            The cooling blocks are a hold over from dc motors that the brushes create the heat & need to be cooled. The brushes are at the end that goes against the holding block, this gets the most heat away from the brushes.

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                            • fweasel
                              master of some
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 4286

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bande1
                              is cooling more efficient if its necked down giving more time for heat transfer?
                              Not in an open loop system. Flow is your friend.
                              Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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                              • PlayerUnknown069
                                Member
                                • Apr 2023
                                • 72

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Capt. Crunch
                                You're going to get the greatest heat trans fer with more water running thru the cooling jacket/esc.
                                Heat transfer is dependant on the difference in temps between the hot side & cold side, more water means it keeps the flow going at a higher rate so water only heats up a little while in the jacket.
                                Best is too have 2 circuits, one for each device.

                                The cooling blocks are a hold over from dc motors that the brushes create the heat & need to be cooled. The brushes are at the end that goes against the holding block, this gets the most heat away from the brushes.
                                Makes sense, brushed motor I do believe generate more heat.

                                I would run it on a 3rd water circuit, I already have two and have one more pickup off needed. Like Truckpull Larry said above, it?s not worth drilling my carbon hull for.

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