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  • zooma
    Local club FE racer
    • May 2014
    • 650

    #1

    Strange collet problem

    On the last run of a P class boat, the two grub screws fell out of the collet and it must have spun around the 5mm motor shaft until it jammed onto the shaft. I didn't notice it until post-race maintenance. I was able to pry it off with a screwdriver blade (have no gear puller). There were a couple of burrs on the shaft that I dressed with a small file. However, neither that TFL collet nor any other new TFL, Aeromarine or Octura collets will fit. Can't even get them started. It's like the motor shaft got swollen from the friction and heat.

    Anybody know about this?
    Ron - The Villages, FL

    https://castawaysboatworx.org/
  • ray schrauwen
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 9471

    #2
    That's called friction welding.



    Not sure if it can be viably fixed unless the motor shaft is properly turned to 5mm. It's hardness is now also compromised.
    Nortavlag Bulc

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    • Peter A
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2012
      • 1486

      #3
      Did the shaft discolor from heat? You could run the motor and use some emery tape or similar to polish it to size.
      NZMPBA 2013, 2016 Open Electric Champion. NZMPBA 2016 P Offshore Champion.
      2016 SUHA Q Sport Hydro Hi Points Champion.
      BOPMPBC Open Mono, Open Electric Champion.

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      • 1coopgt
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2019
        • 413

        #4
        Did you measure the shaft in a couple of places with a pair of calipers to see how bad it is?

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        • zooma
          Local club FE racer
          • May 2014
          • 650

          #5
          Originally posted by 1coopgt
          Did you measure the shaft in a couple of places with a pair of calipers to see how bad it is?
          Getting 4.9 to 5.1 with Harbor Freight sliding caliper. Can't get really repeatable measurements.
          Ron - The Villages, FL

          https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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          • zooma
            Local club FE racer
            • May 2014
            • 650

            #6
            Originally posted by Peter A
            Did the shaft discolor from heat? You could run the motor and use some emery tape or similar to polish it to size.
            No discoloration. Will try the emery tape.
            Ron - The Villages, FL

            https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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            • fweasel
              master of some
              • Jul 2016
              • 4279

              #7
              You can open the ID of the collet in a lathe of you have access to one. Otherwise, emery cloth on the rotor shaft sounds like the best bet.
              Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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              • Shadow99
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2020
                • 14

                #8
                Don?t forget to remove the burrs from between the slots of the collet, if there are any burrs in the slots of the collet, they will reduce the clamping pressure of the collet to the cable, & will probably cause slippage again.
                I?ve used a thin jeweler?s file &/or a piece of emery cloth to remove the burrs in the slots before.

                Shadow

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                • zooma
                  Local club FE racer
                  • May 2014
                  • 650

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shadow99
                  Don?t forget to remove the burrs from between the slots of the collet, if there are any burrs in the slots of the collet, they will reduce the clamping pressure of the collet to the cable, & will probably cause slippage again.
                  I?ve used a thin jeweler?s file &/or a piece of emery cloth to remove the burrs in the slots before.

                  Shadow
                  Never noticed that. Will check the ones that I have.
                  Ron - The Villages, FL

                  https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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