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  • finlor44
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2020
    • 29

    #1

    cheetah cat p-cat single setup

    Looking for ideas on hardware, motor and such. I've got the hull ordered from here, with the intent to oval race in p-cat single. 4s. leaning towards the TP 4050 1950kv. 180 amp hobbywing esc. Hardware setup is in the air. Should I run a Skeg Strut? Like a Speedmaster small cat skeg strut? or not needed. Just would really apricate any advise.
    Thanks Always Guys,
    Wayne
  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #2
    Hello Wayne,

    Cheetahs are about as perfect a hull as you can get. For P-Cat it'll make a good choice as it's wider than many of the zoomy straightline cat speedsters commonly available. I built my first one for personal fun/racing and since I'm what could be described as an "overbuilder" I went with the larger Speedmaster skeg strut (which required stepping down the stuffing tube) because it should provide a better bite in the turns - especially when the racewater gets bouncy. Same with the larger Speedmaster rudder, which I cut down some. The ones I built for customers follow the same theme so there won't be any failures due to insufficiently strong components. The RtR Cheetahs I've seen have small bracket-offset rudders which I'm betting don't look so good after a good acrobatic spill.

    I originally went with a Neu 1521 1.5D (1890KV) basically because I had one sitting around, but as I became close to the TP Power folks (having the 4050 as the go-to motor for my FE30 clientele) I put a 4060 2040KV in my Cheetah and can go up (so far) to a 450/3 blade or even a 452/2 I used for 2-lap. The larger TP Power 4060 would be my choice - no sweat in heats.

    If you do end up with the 4060 motor go up to a Swordfish 220 or better yet the 240. Heavy duty during the build equals less maintenance later on

    I couldn't locate my original build thread but scroll thru this - you'll see the strut & rudder in one of the pictures

    https://forums.offshoreelectrics.com...OATBUILD/page3

    early testing




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    Last edited by properchopper; 01-14-2022, 02:03 PM.
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • Jesse J
      scale FE racer
      • Aug 2008
      • 7098

      #3
      Hey Tony, could you pretty please weigh one of your p cats ready to race, minus batteries? Assume your batts are about a pound each.
      Thanks for sharing your divine wisdom and your magic setups!
      Jesse
      "Look good doin' it"
      See the fleet

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      • properchopper
        • Apr 2007
        • 6968

        #4
        Darn scale took some "masssaging" to come to life BUT the Cheetah sans 4S 5000's (but with a small Rx battery (the Hydra 240 BEC board went to heaven ) weighs 7.5 lbs. Seems light to me but as a single it runs loose and fasssst

        Found an early pre-dial vid : (Neu 1521 1.5D)

        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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        • Jesse J
          scale FE racer
          • Aug 2008
          • 7098

          #5
          Nicely done as always, Tony. Thanks for the info.
          So with batteries.. she could have been ticklin 10 lbs ?!?
          "Look good doin' it"
          See the fleet

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          • finlor44
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 29

            #6
            Thanks for the great Advise!!!

            Hello!
            Thanks soooo much for the advise!. So here is want I plan thus far to throw in the new single cat, TP 4060 Motor (measures 40mm x 92mm), 1950kv, . Mamba Monster X 8S esc. yes, running 4s. Namban legit! offset Rudder-strut set-up. Mr. Jim V, from Texas speaks highly of you, and your experience.

            What prop should I start with?

            Thanks again!
            Wayne

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            • properchopper
              • Apr 2007
              • 6968

              #7
              Originally posted by Jesse J
              Nicely done as always, Tony. Thanks for the info.
              So with batteries.. she could have been ticklin 10 lbs ?!?
              aYes.jpg

              I sampled some 4S 5000's - right at 1.2 lbs Sooo.. Loaded for battle I'd say: YES you are correct Sir - 10 lbs wet on the mill
              2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
              2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
              '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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              • properchopper
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Originally posted by finlor44
                Hello!
                Thanks soooo much for the advise!. So here is want I plan thus far to throw in the new single cat, TP 4060 Motor (measures 40mm x 92mm), 1950kv, . Mamba Monster X 8S esc. yes, running 4s. Namban legit! offset Rudder-strut set-up. Mr. Jim V, from Texas speaks highly of you, and your experience.

                What prop should I start with?

                Thanks again!
                Wayne
                Wayne, I started with an Octura 447/3 - ran really nice & cool + acceleration out of turns is enhanced with the 3-blade - something to consider in heat racing. I'm sure you can go larger - I've run a 450/3 and a 452/2 but only shorter runs - with props it's test,test,test.

                Good times with Mr. JV at the LA SAWS way back when.................
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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