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  • ksm2001
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 377

    #31
    I have the motor set at 180mm from Transom and my CG is at 335mm, I followed the instructions the where in German I know some said to set it to 160mm or even 150 but I couldn't get close to the cg of what is wanted.
    Thanks Andy :thumbsup:
    DF-29,Phil Thomas Super Sport 45, SV27, Xzess 2 Evo, HOTR 32" Cat

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    • ksm2001
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 377

      #32
      Once we get spring back here I'll kick the rudder back like you have it in the pic and try it out, the post above I should have said that having the cg at 335mm the boat runs fast and stable on calm water with a 8xl and a x637 prop and 4s. I'll try the 7xl out in spring.
      Ken
      DF-29,Phil Thomas Super Sport 45, SV27, Xzess 2 Evo, HOTR 32" Cat

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      • andym
        More Go Than Show Prop Co
        • Apr 2007
        • 2406

        #33
        Try a m645 with the 8xl, if you have good packs and esc it will not be a problem and absolutly haul some ass

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        • Xzessperated
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2008
          • 3060

          #34
          Originally posted by ksm2001
          I have the motor set at 180mm from Transom and my CG is at 335mm, I followed the instructions the where in German I know some said to set it to 160mm or even 150 but I couldn't get close to the cg of what is wanted.
          Thanks Andy :thumbsup:
          ksm2001 here is what is possible after cutting the CF boom and it will allow you to get the COG much better



          You can see the Lipo will go up into the nose

          Several boats in various stages of destruction

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          • Xzessperated
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2008
            • 3060

            #35
            Here are some pictures of my original Xs2. You will see I put my receiver pack up in the nose and then the Lipo behind it. You will also see my boom mod. I cut some marine ply and shaped a half round into it so the remaining boom would fit into the half round nicely. The ply and the boom are also wired together and then a generous amount of epoxy to glue it all in place. I did not cut the boom until the epoxy was set for several hours and that way the boom remains in the position it was meant to be.





            Here you can see the receiver pack in the nose


            The boom mod....
            Several boats in various stages of destruction

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            • Xzessperated
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2008
              • 3060

              #36
              Some repair work I had to do (still waiting to be painted) after cutting a puffed 6s pack out with some side cutters . This hull has had a hard life but is going much faster today than when I first purchaed it. Sorry about the dark look inside the hull but that is what happens when you let the smoke out of an esc.

              Several boats in various stages of destruction

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              • Xzessperated
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2008
                • 3060

                #37
                A tail of 2 riggers....
                10guage here are the pics of the transoms. You can see there is a small offset on both struts. On Andy's old boat (red transom) you can see the rudder is quite long.
                On my original boat you can see Solinger hardware but a very short rudder and turn fin. You could call it a SAWcuit boat

                Andys boat turns much better but I just use mine for straight line and so turning is not a big issue for me. I use the short turn fin because of the small lake I run on (and the ducks)





                I hope this helps
                Paddy
                Several boats in various stages of destruction

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                • 10gauge
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 281

                  #38
                  Paddy, I can't thank you enough for the superb pictures and great advice! You and Andy are in my book. This must be Australian hospitality at its finest. In any case, if you ever need free dental advice, you know who to ask.
                  Mean Machine Cat: 9XL, 4S2P, CC120, M545 (50mph) -- DF22 Hydro: 8L, 3S1P/4500, CC120, x637 (49mph) -- M-1 SuperCat: 1521/1Y, 6S2P, CC240, x447 (61mph) -- SV27 Mono: stock setup, 14-cell/4200, x642 (42mph) -- Micro Scat Cat: 28-3600, 3S1P/2100, Turnigy 60, x430 (41mph)

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                  • ksm2001
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 377

                    #39
                    Great pics paddy, I sheeted and epoxied fiberglass cloth around the booms to the hull and then cut the booms flush with the side of the hull for the lipos to fit up front. I like your motor position, I'll see how it runs with the 7xl and may move the motor to the front more now that I see how you have yours set. Thanks also for all the pics. To bad I didn't have them when I built the boat
                    DF-29,Phil Thomas Super Sport 45, SV27, Xzess 2 Evo, HOTR 32" Cat

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                    • 10gauge
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 281

                      #40
                      Hey Ken, forgot to thank you too for your comments and photo!
                      Mean Machine Cat: 9XL, 4S2P, CC120, M545 (50mph) -- DF22 Hydro: 8L, 3S1P/4500, CC120, x637 (49mph) -- M-1 SuperCat: 1521/1Y, 6S2P, CC240, x447 (61mph) -- SV27 Mono: stock setup, 14-cell/4200, x642 (42mph) -- Micro Scat Cat: 28-3600, 3S1P/2100, Turnigy 60, x430 (41mph)

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                      • ksm2001
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 377

                        #41
                        YW 10 gauge, let us know how your build comes along, as for the strut offset I did the same and works great, I set it to 3mm left of center. Oh ya your a dentist hmmm have this throbbing lol JK. Cheers
                        Ken
                        DF-29,Phil Thomas Super Sport 45, SV27, Xzess 2 Evo, HOTR 32" Cat

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                        • 10gauge
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 281

                          #42
                          I let you guys know how it's progressing. It's going to be a step up from my DF22 Vortex Hydro. It's a long winter here in New England, and I am going build this one carefully.
                          Mean Machine Cat: 9XL, 4S2P, CC120, M545 (50mph) -- DF22 Hydro: 8L, 3S1P/4500, CC120, x637 (49mph) -- M-1 SuperCat: 1521/1Y, 6S2P, CC240, x447 (61mph) -- SV27 Mono: stock setup, 14-cell/4200, x642 (42mph) -- Micro Scat Cat: 28-3600, 3S1P/2100, Turnigy 60, x430 (41mph)

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                          • Xzessperated
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3060

                            #43
                            You guys are welcome. We get a lot of help from your side of the pond also and it is always appreciated. It really does not matter what side of the pond we are on as we are all FE boaters.
                            I look forward to seeing the build progress and some action shots when your ice melts.
                            Several boats in various stages of destruction

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                            • andym
                              More Go Than Show Prop Co
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2406

                              #44
                              Yes please , action shots and some vidio doing 65mph will be very nice thank you.

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