aeromarine 36 sprint cat twin drive suggestions

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  • hiboatah
    Junior Member
    • May 2011
    • 8

    #1

    aeromarine 36 sprint cat twin drive suggestions

    Brought this bare hull out from storage and would like to start building it as a twin motor set up. i have a few questions:
    *36mm or 40mm motors. 2K kv / 6S?
    *where do I purchase the motor mounts from
    *I'm finding it almost impossible to mount the motors and drives in the sponsons. do we normally set up the aeromarine hulls with over the tunnel motor mount and drives?
    *if for some reason some of us has been able to mount the motors and drives in the sponsons is there an advantage to this. struts out the sponsons or struts hanging off the transom dropping into the tunnel
    *lastly, based on how much this sprint cat will weigh and the shaft rpm, what will be a ball park propeller to run

    thank you in advance - Kyle
  • TRUCKPULL
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 2971

    #2
    Kyle- here are some pictures of mine, Twin TP 4050 - 1570KV , two Turnigy 180A ESC's
    Two 6S - 5000 70c -140c batteries, two Hitec -HS-5645MG servos (push-pull),
    Two ABC - 1815-17-45 props Left and right.

    GPS - in race setup at 77 MPH.

    Larry
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    • hiboatah
      Junior Member
      • May 2011
      • 8

      #3
      Thank you for sharing your set up with me Larry.

      You got so much room in there.

      I hope there's not a performance difference having the drives out the sponson vs drives out the tunnel. On the sprint cat there is NO room to access motor mounting in the sponson unless you cut the deck back and also cut the rails down. (shorter). In addtion to that, on the sprint cat you have all kinds of room on the transom to hang a lot of stuff. So it seems the logical thing to do on the sprint cat (36 that is)
      Also, 36mm or 40mm motors - a setup that will not overwhelm this craft
      Also where do you purchase these motor mount from. I see Steven has one to purchase in the online store. Does this mfg make one for 36mm twin motor setup?

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      • TRUCKPULL
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 2971

        #4
        Motor mount, - cut it to fit from carboard, trace it on to your mount material, cut it out and fiberglass it in.
        The ones in this boat are made from aluminum. I am looking to use carbon fiber on my next boat, A little bigger boat.

        Putting the motors and batteries in the sponsons is a lot better. Lower center of gravity.

        Larry
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        • ray schrauwen
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 9471

          #5
          These work too. I have a metal one that's really old.

          Nortavlag Bulc

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          • hiboatah
            Junior Member
            • May 2011
            • 8

            #6
            Thank you Guys for your inspiration.
            Just to hear/see of your accomplishments and validation for my ideas are encouraging enough
            Measured the 36 with water jacket...it barely makes it between the deck and tub. In this case, the rails need to be cut off.
            Ray, nice shape contour gauge! He he...need a small one in this case to make the motor mount outline
            Well...I'll get started.
            Thank you very much boaters

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            • Mike snell
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2020
              • 17

              #7
              Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
              Kyle- here are some pictures of mine, Twin TP 4050 - 1570KV , two Turnigy 180A ESC's
              Two 6S - 5000 70c -140c batteries, two Hitec -HS-5645MG servos (push-pull),
              Two ABC - 1815-17-45 props Left and right.

              GPS - in race setup at 77 MPH.

              Larry
              Hey how are you doing my name is Mike I?m running a 51 inch Hellcat with swordfish 220s And I?m also running to 5000 100c Graphing Packs And I was just looking at your set up I was wondering if hooking the batteries in parallel on the two ESC is the way that you have done do you find that it runs better than having everything separated

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              • TRUCKPULL
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 2971

                #8
                Hello Mike
                I do believe that wiring the ESC's so the they each see 6S-2P is the way to go, Both batteries are always the same voltage.
                When wired separately you will always have one battery lower then the other at the end of a run, and have to hold the rudder one way or the other to go in a strait line.
                You may have to but a plug in the black wire, to disconnect the two ESC's from each other, for when programing them.
                With the two Turnigy ESC's I hade no problem. On another boat with Castle ESC's I had to use a plug and program each one separately.


                Larry
                Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                • Mike snell
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
                  Hello Mike
                  I do believe that wiring the ESC's so the they each see 6S-2P is the way to go, Both batteries are always the same voltage.
                  When wired separately you will always have one battery lower then the other at the end of a run, and have to hold the rudder one way or the other to go in a strait line.
                  You may have to but a plug in the black wire, to disconnect the two ESC's from each other, for when programing them.
                  With the two Turnigy ESC's I hade no problem. On another boat with Castle ESC's I had to use a plug and program each one separately.


                  Larry
                  OK one more question when you say 6s-2p you mean 6S parallel

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                  • TRUCKPULL
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 2971

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mike snell
                    OK one more question when you say 6s-2p you mean 6S parallel
                    YES
                    6S-2P means 2 in Parallel 6S packs

                    Mike did you used to live in MI.?

                    Larry
                    Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                    Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                    Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                    • Mike snell
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2020
                      • 17

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TRUCKPULL
                      YES
                      6S-2P means 2 in Parallel 6S packs

                      Mike did you used to live in MI.?

                      Larry
                      Cool thank you I had a camp and Jordan River Estates

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                      • hiboatah
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 8

                        #12
                        That's a good point about running the twin 6S-1P as separate motor systems vs 6S-2P shared power to both motor systems Larry.
                        Would there be less of a uneven propulsion effect if the cat were to have the twin motors mounted on the tunnel closer to each other vs spread apart mounted in the sponson. If so, there is a benefit mounting the twin motors high and close. It would be more tolerable to drive due to uneven propulsion caused the the 6S-1P power set up. Just thoughts setting up my sprint cat 36. Still contemplating if the big effort mounting the motors low will have that much more of a benefit.
                        Kyle

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                        • jaike5
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 561

                          #13
                          Make it a single motor setup ...... half the issues !!

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                          • TRUCKPULL
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2971

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hiboatah
                            That's a good point about running the twin 6S-1P as separate motor systems vs 6S-2P shared power to both motor systems Larry.
                            Would there be less of a uneven propulsion effect if the cat were to have the twin motors mounted on the tunnel closer to each other vs spread apart mounted in the sponson. If so, there is a benefit mounting the twin motors high and close. It would be more tolerable to drive due to uneven propulsion caused the the 6S-1P power set up. Just thoughts setting up my sprint cat 36. Still contemplating if the big effort mounting the motors low will have that much more of a benefit.
                            Kyle
                            Both motors and batteries in the sponsons - lower CG and turns faster and flatter.
                            6S-2P shared power is so simple to do - It should be a NO brainer.

                            Larry
                            Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                            Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                            Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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                            • TRUCKPULL
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2971

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jaike5
                              Make it a single motor setup ...... half the issues !!
                              Jay
                              I guess you missed the "Q" Cat race between Mike, Tom, and myself at 50 Point.

                              Larry
                              Past NAMBA- P Mono -1 Mile Race Record holder
                              Past NAMBA- P Sport -1 Mile Race Record holder
                              Bump & Grind Racing Props -We Like Em Smooth & Wet

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