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  • NativePaul
    Greased Weasel
    • Feb 2008
    • 2759

    #16
    Panther it sounds like the Tenshock Mini Mono kit would be right up your street, it comes with everything in the ARTR for $25 less as they are not putting in the build time. Just add radio and battery. As with the ARTR this will come with a 2s motor as standard, so if you would rather use 3s you have to ask them to exchange it. While not strictly needed, I would also add a CNC prop to the order.

    They also do a hull/hardware set if you have your own electrics, but it is only $42 less than the kit, and the Tenshock 1515 Viper motor is worth a lot more than that and you get an ESC and servo thrown in with the kit too.

    Ecomaster also sells everything needed, and with some discussion could put together a complete package for any of the boats he sells.

    While some of them are made in China don't mistake any of these for a TFL RTR, none of the hulls are likely to fall apart in normal use. With the riggers you always have the chance of snapping a boom if you hit something, but you wont break one on the water by yourself, and I have seen dozens of mini monos crash into each other or have buoy strikes with nothing other than cosmetic scrapes and dinged props.

    I cant speak of MHZ hardware, though I have one of their hulls I don't have any of their hardware, but the others mentioned are great. As long as you remove the wire drives and oil the ballraces in the shaft at the end of each day you will maintain driveline efficiency for a long time.
    Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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    • ray schrauwen
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 9471

      #17
      Originally posted by Dr. Jet
      I have one of these: https://www.mhz-powerboats.com/shop/...mm-17-gfk?c=59 and it would be a good fit for that size battery. The hull is a high-quality layup and quite light. Native Paul just about has me convinced to buy another to fit a motor I have lying around.
      Wow. I didn't know they still sold that. I always wanted one.
      Nortavlag Bulc

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      • bhorowitz
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 109

        #18
        If you want any of the Zipkits stuff, contact Mike Walker. He's a great builder and does their stuff to almost any level of completion. If you want one of the Mini Sprints, he might even have one. If not, I bet Joe at Zipkits would probably cut one for you.

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        • Dr. Jet
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2007
          • 1707

          #19
          Originally posted by ray schrauwen
          Wow. I didn't know they still sold that. I always wanted one.
          The Miss Madison is a really stable hull as the minis go and I REALLY like mine. I think I only flipped mine once due to hitting a wake at fill-tilt boogie. I'm probably going to build another in the near future with Native Paul's self-righting suggestion. Years ago I had an MHZ Micro Iceberg with an Aveox 1005/2Y (now living in my 16" wood cat). It was stupid fast in the straights, but anything over a slow crawl in the turns and it would roll like a log. I eventually sold it because it wasn't fun.
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          • Panther6834
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2020
            • 708

            #20
            First, and foremost, I hope Tom M is getting plenty of good & useful information out of everything. After all, this is his thread. That being said, I know I'm gaining knowledge in this area, and an going to start more-thoroughly researching the options. In the meantime, time to head to the pond, and test out my rebuilt Atomik Barbwire 3 (the entire drive-line, and all electronics (other than the Rx), have been replaced).


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            • Tom M
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 150

              #21
              Oh trust me, there’s more info here than I could ever use, but that’s the point

              I’ve decided on a hull, it’s 16.5” vortex hydro, since it’s my first build in a while and I wanna shake off the cobwebs on a cheaper hull and support Steve. I’m looking to run a .130 flex cable with it, are there any struts that’ll accept a 3/16 prop shaft for this boat? I see a few are 3/16 shaft to 1/8 for prop. Do you think a .098 will be enough for this boat so i can run standard micro hardware?

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              • Dr. Jet
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2007
                • 1707

                #22
                I have one of the first run of Vortex hulls and I've been using .098 without a problem.
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                • Tom M
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 150

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Dr. Jet
                  I have one of the first run of Vortex hulls and I've been using .098 without a problem.
                  Great, thanks! What hardware are you using? I'm torn between the octura offset mini strut system and the individual micro components linked below

                  System: https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...oct-oc4str-cda
                  Strut: https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...prod=ose-80046
                  Rudder: https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...prod=ose-80047 or the non-extended version

                  Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to the micro/mini side of things

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                  • Panther6834
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 708

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NativePaul
                    Here are free plans for the KEPS and JAE Mini Hydros. RBC also sell a kit for the hydro.
                    Part of what "confuses" me is that you call "hydro" what we call an "outrigger". Stateside, when I think of a "hydro", I think of something akin to the MHZ Miss Madison, or the ProBoat UL-19.

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                    • Panther6834
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2020
                      • 708

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Dr. Jet
                      I have one of the first run of Vortex hulls and I've been using .098 without a problem.
                      This hydro is definitely nice...but, what I REALLY like is the 'chrome' dual-motor cat you're working on. Something along that line is what I'm probably looking to do. As much as I like the look of a hydro, I don't think I'm ready for one...at least not yet. I really believe a micro cat would be best. As I hinted at in an earlier post, I have no boat-building knowledge (other than rebuilding the Barbwire 3, which wasn't really much in the "building" department...the closest I got to actual "boat building" was building up, and installing, a new stuffing tube), which is why as-completee-a-kit as possible is probably best. It doesn't absolutely "need" to include electronics (those I can source from Steve), but everything else (or close to everything else) should be included. Another 'plus' is if hols are pre-drilled, or at least marked.

                      On a completely-unrelated matter, I noticed several of your photos have your micro hydros & micro cats inside a "briefcase". I've been looking for something (somewhat) similar to put my Barbwire 3 in...and, once a build 'whatever' (micro cat (preferred) or micro hydro), I'd like to place it in something. As a professional chauffeur, I can't exactly be bringing a typical boat carrier onboard, so I'll need something "discreet". Any (preferably inexpensive) suggestions/recommendations?

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                      • Panther6834
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2020
                        • 708

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dr. Jet
                        The Miss Madison is a really stable hull as the minis go and I REALLY like mine. I think I only flipped mine once due to hitting a wake at fill-tilt boogie. I'm probably going to build another in the near future with Native Paul's self-righting suggestion. Years ago I had an MHZ Micro Iceberg with an Aveox 1005/2Y (now living in my 16" wood cat). It was stupid fast in the straights, but anything over a slow crawl in the turns and it would roll like a log. I eventually sold it because it wasn't fun.
                        You say the Micro Iceberg is "unstable". What about the H&M Drifter Micro or Maritmo Micro? Does anyone have any experience with either of these? Also, can either of these (or another quality micro cat) be configured with dual motor? I don't mind a single (lighter), but I prefer the longer runtime, as well as the centered rudder, of a dual. Obviously, with a hydro, such as the Miss Madison, a single is the only option. I will admit, Miss Madison IS growing on me...but, at the same time, I'd still prefer (if possible) a (dual, preferably) micro cat.

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                        • Panther6834
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2020
                          • 708

                          #27
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                          • Dr. Jet
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1707

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Tom M
                            Great, thanks! What hardware are you using? I'm torn between the octura offset mini strut system and the individual micro components linked below

                            System: https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...oct-oc4str-cda
                            Strut: https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...prod=ose-80046
                            Rudder: https://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pr...prod=ose-80047 or the non-extended version

                            Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to the micro/mini side of things
                            No problem about the questions. That's the point of these forums. I'm using the separate strut and rudder Steve sells here, not the Octura system.
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                            • Dr. Jet
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1707

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Panther6834
                              This hydro is definitely nice...but, what I REALLY like is the 'chrome' dual-motor cat you're working on.
                              Stay tuned, it's going to change to 24K GOLD!!

                              Originally posted by Panther6834
                              Something along that line is what I'm probably looking to do. As much as I like the look of a hydro, I don't think I'm ready for one...at least not yet.
                              They're really not that difficult, just different.

                              Originally posted by Panther6834
                              ......On a completely-unrelated matter, I noticed several of your photos have your micro hydros & micro cats inside a "briefcase". I've been looking for something (somewhat) similar to put my Barbwire 3 in.......... Any (preferably inexpensive) suggestions/recommendations?
                              One of my favorite benefits of the micros. Check eBay, and Amazon for cases or occasionally SRA cases has a deal. ( https://sra-cases.com/ ). There are other suppliers on the 'Net, just keep searching.
                              A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                              • Dr. Jet
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1707

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Panther6834
                                You say the Micro Iceberg is "unstable". What about the H&M Drifter Micro or Maritmo Micro? Does anyone have any experience with either of these?
                                The chrome (soon to be gold) cat is an H&M Micro Drifter. It's an order of magnitude larger than the Micro Iceberg and I suspect it will handle better. Stay tuned for a pilot report on it.

                                Originally posted by Panther6834
                                Also, can either of these (or another quality micro cat) be configured with dual motor?........
                                Absolutely. My current H&M Micro Drifter build is a twin, and I built the much smaller BBY Micro Scat Cat as a twin. One thing I learned from the BBY MSC is to use a dedicated batter per motor. I originally tried to run both motors off one battery due to space considerations, but I had start-up issues. Once I switched to two smaller batteries, the start-up issues disappeared.

                                Because I run 2S systems, I am usually on the lower end of an ESC's voltage range. The large current spike at start-up causes a voltage drop, and if one ESC "sees" this drop a nano-second before the other, one of them starts freaking out.
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