OSE Raider M34 ?

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  • Andris Golts
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 504

    #1

    OSE Raider M34 ?

    HI all i have a Swordfish 220 amp esc a Leopard 4074 1650 kv motor and a 6s lipo sitting on the shelf collecting dust im considering the Raider M34. Has anyone set up this hull and ran it on 6s ? any set up pictures ? the web site just has pictures of different color hulls no interior or hull rigging pictures or articles . Regards Andris Golts.
  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #2
    Hello Andris ! I'm a bit surprised no one has chimed in as of now so I'll take a swing at shedding some light on your question. While I've not built a OSE Raider M34 ( I really like it from photos and would strongly consider it for a worthy P-Mono raceboat) here's a basic layout I use for Cyberstorms [32.75"] that I build for customers. Note the up-sized (slightly trimmed down) rear rudder & the el-longo XXL turn fins that keep the hull planted in racewater turns - not really necessary for sport running + I like the Speedmaster stinger which I shorten about .5 inch. You could get away with less sturdy hardware for a sport runner but I build boats to survive racing abuse . Also set up like this you could series-rig two 3S batteries for 6S & get some decent runtime with the right prop.

    Cyber green interior DSC07631-1.JPG Cyber green rear hardware DSC07630.JPG
    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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    • properchopper
      • Apr 2007
      • 6968

      #3
      OTOH if you want to go maximum strength here's an Insane 34 I set up for P-Mono ovals that's built to survive nuclear annihilation :

      IB 34 interior 20191211_123639_resized.jpg
      2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
      '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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      • Andris Golts
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 504

        #4
        Hi properchopper thanks for the information and pictures. Regards Andris Golts.

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        • ray schrauwen
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2007
          • 9471

          #5
          May I spam out and ask exactly how high to drill the 1/4" hole for the stinger on my Cyberstorm transom?

          Setting up for P mono.

          Sorry Andris...

          The Raider is a hell of a boat! Wish I had one! That should be fun.
          Nortavlag Bulc

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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Hi Ray - I was going to answer your Q on IW BUT - I usually mark the center of the hole at 3/8" to 7/16". Maybe some say a tad low BUT with the Speedmaster stinger I can play with the strut angle to keep the prop happy, the ride attitude correct for racewater, and ride out the chine walk when it happens .

            Edit : when you think about it, the real measurement (and what it affects) is the prop depth. I've found that the Cyberstorms are quite competitive in P-Mono with a 1515 1Y- type 2200 KV motor and a prop no bigger than 45mm like a M545. A higher shaft with a 47mm+ prop starts some torque roll issues which can settle into chine walk.

            Of course I'm open to other input.
            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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            • ray schrauwen
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 9471

              #7
              Hmmm....

              Thank you for the quick response.

              I was sorta planning on the 2000Kv 4082, I could grab a 4074 2200kv in a pinch. You like ABC props or still Octura?

              I did buy some ABC in 47mm range recently... meh...

              ABC are available at OSE until they are not... again lol...

              Thanks
              Nortavlag Bulc

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              • properchopper
                • Apr 2007
                • 6968

                #8
                Ray, as I see it, one of the only advantages that a 4082 has over a 4074 is its ability (torque and horsepower -wise) to spin larger props - 47, 48, 50 , even 52/2 mm. I've run 1521 1.5D in Cyberstorms (to keep up with the trends) and didn't end up with a more surviveable raceboat. Torque roll took its toll. I'm a little late to the ABC 17degree-rake prop party 'tho Brian handed me a few at the Straightlines (with his famous wink and smile) and I set records with them
                2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                • ray schrauwen
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9471

                  #9
                  If I went to a 2200kv motor, what ABC props would you suggest?

                  I do have a 2200kv Scorpion 36mm x 85mm 1Y motor I could try in the mono and run the 2000 4082 in my ML 310. It just seems backwards but I would rather not deal with torque roll.

                  I think I have a 1521 1.5D I might have gotten from you.
                  Nortavlag Bulc

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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Like I said, I'm kind of new to the ABC "game changers". Maybe ask Jay, or Greg Schweers, or Ken Haines or even Chris at DasBoata.

                    Duh ! Check with Brian
                    Last edited by properchopper; 12-15-2019, 02:52 PM.
                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • ray schrauwen
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9471

                      #11
                      O.k. Thanks.

                      Sorry Andris, thank you too.
                      Nortavlag Bulc

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