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  • CornelP
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 745

    #16
    Well, it's not like it doesn't mean anything, but if the national organization is not interested in joining and you have racers that would like to attend, then a club can step in.
    There are also examples of countries where there are two organizations affiliated, each on different classes (one has the FE, other has sail and scale models). For years one other organization was not interested and one person paid a symbolic fee to be able to participate in World and European Championships.
    The main idea is to allow racers to participate if they want to. And there are these controversies even in countries represented by the national federation....

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    • RaceMechaniX
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2007
      • 2821

      #17
      Paul, for the limiters does everyone need to run a standard connector on the ends? Or do racers solder on their own connectors after drawing from the hat?

      -Tyler
      Tyler Garrard
      NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
      T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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      • CornelP
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 745

        #18
        There will be a standard for the connectors used at a major event, it is actually under vote these days.
        Probably we will end up with different size connectors on each side of the limiter (eg 5.5mm to the battery, 6mm to the ESC), to avoid any mistake... You will install the limiter just before the race, during the boat/battery check, so many racers will be in a hurry and can do silly mistakes.

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        • raptor347
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jul 2007
          • 1089

          #19
          Will there be a diagram for wire length etc so we can setup our own limiters to match the standard? Also, the eLim looks like it's inline with both power wires while the others available appear to go inline on only one leg, will we end up with only one option?
          Brian "Snowman" Buaas
          Team Castle Creations
          NAMBA FE Chairman

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          • CornelP
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 745

            #20
            Yes, full details will be given for the connections. For now, the length is around 80mm total (wires plus limiter).
            All three limiters will have both power wires connected (TSS and KLW will have a wire added to allow a standard).

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            • T.S.Davis
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2009
              • 6220

              #21
              With Tyler and Brian driving for him, Oxideans chances go up exponentially. Nice get for OM.
              Noisy person

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              • ray schrauwen
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 9471

                #22
                I found out yesterday that you can take lipos on carry on. Holy crap!
                Nortavlag Bulc

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                • NativePaul
                  Greased Weasel
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2760

                  #23
                  You can, and should rather than stowing them, but I believe there is a 100Wh per battery limit for passenger air travel so 4s and 6s packs for Mono2, Hydro2 and FSRE packs have to be split up into 2x2s 2x3s etc.
                  Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                  • RaceMechaniX
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2821

                    #24
                    It's easy to get them into Europe, but as I found out it was not easy traveling within Europe. I lost about $600 worth of lipos traveling to the Munich SAW event. Even though the batteries were within the legal limits German security would not allow them.
                    Tyler Garrard
                    NAMBA 639/IMPBA 20525
                    T-Hydro @ 142.94mph former WR

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                    • Walter Geens
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 4

                      #25
                      hi all,
                      makes up for some good reading what i read here. A true World series can happen now, and i for one am all for it. Sometimes ideas come together and they continue on that road instead of staying "local". We have an established race format where everyone is welcome to proof their merits , so what s to loose?

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                      • Norwest
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 165

                        #26
                        Off subject. Many years ago I sent Walter plans for a rigger of a gentleman from USA. I just ran across his name a few minutes ago. I believe he is from Belgium is my memory serves me correct. Sorry about this off topic. Just had to reply, sorry!

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                        • NativePaul
                          Greased Weasel
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2760

                          #27
                          There is not a full 2020 rule book update yet, but I just saw this:

                          "Dear Eco, Hydro, Mono, FSR E racers,

                          Summing the votes about limiter connections, I can now announce the result, and the votes in details as well.
                          The votes of countries by options (order by time, vote arrived):
                          Option 1: 3x5.5mm+1x3.5mm – China, Hungary, Belgium
                          Option 2: 2x5.5mm+2x3.5mm – Ukraine, Czech Republic
                          Option 3: 2x5.5mm+2x6mm - Romania, Thailand, UK, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Slovakia, France, Lithuania, Poland

                          As all of you can see, 10 countries voted in favour of option 3, against 2 and 3 for the other 2 options. As a result of voting, at WC/CC/EC, connectors soldered on Naviga provided limiters will be as follows:
                          Battery side positive: 5.5mm Male
                          Battery side negative: 5.5mm Female
                          ESC side positive: 6mm Male
                          ESC side negative: 6mm Female

                          The length of limiter cables is 80mm. Limiter must be connected directly to battery and before the safety kill switch on ESC side.
                          Here is a simple drawing of the setup.
                          limiter.jpg

                          Kind regards,

                          Csaba D?nielfy
                          Naviga M Section Leader"
                          Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                          • NativePaul
                            Greased Weasel
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2760

                            #28
                            I sought clarification as those connectors are unnecessarily large for minis and a lot of mini Hydros are a tight squeeze even to fit 2200mAh and a hard wired limiter in.

                            For Mini class boats you can use your own limiter and there is no limiter wire length or connector regulation.

                            The option to use <113g batteries instead of a limiter is also still available for Mini classes.
                            Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                            • T.S.Davis
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 6220

                              #29
                              Here ya go Walter. This is who you are dealing with.

                              I'm not a racist Walter. Despite you declaring it so. I really want to move on but Oxidean is the gift that keeps giving.
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                              Noisy person

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                              • NativePaul
                                Greased Weasel
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 2760

                                #30
                                Tiny photo there Terry I can recognise the shape of some, but not all of the words.
                                Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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