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  • Redfusion900
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2019
    • 5

    #1

    External Ice water cooling system

    Anyone thought of filling a cooler with ice water and running a small 12v pump with a y adapter to hook up to your pickups to cool the motor and ESC between packs and before a run? Curious of everyone's thoughts..
  • StevenBryant
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 359

    #2
    Originally posted by Redfusion900
    Anyone thought of filling a cooler with ice water and running a small 12v pump with a y adapter to hook up to your pickups to cool the motor and ESC between packs and before a run? Curious of everyone's thoughts..
    I believe a few people on OSE have tried this, from memory condensation was an issue with the esc.


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    • Redfusion900
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2019
      • 5

      #3
      [QUOTE=StevenBryant;737519]I believe a few people on OSE have tried this, from memory condensation was an issue with the esc.

      Hmm.. being a supposed waterproof ESC I wonder how or where it would condensate. Theoretically it should be sealed from all internal condensation, in that case I would think it would be ok.

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      • Bp9145
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2016
        • 1466

        #4
        I usually have a large container/bottle of cold ice water and I just take a gulp and blow it into the rudder water inlet and watch it exit through the water outlet. Gets the motor and esc cooler but I do it slowly as in short bursts and let sit for about a minute before blowing more cold water. I don't know if it matters or not but I just don't want to cool it immediately. . . so by doing it in short bursts and letting it adjust slowly to the cold water I feel, imo, I don't shock my motor and esc if it even matters. I usually only do this when I have a bunch of kids waiting to get their turn or when I want to run that particular boat again and again. But I have 3-6 boats for the neighborhood kids to play with. . .lots of fun!

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        • Peter A
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Sep 2012
          • 1486

          #5
          Why Ice water? Ambient temperature is sufficient. You don't even need a 12v pump, just use a 5 liter pressure sprayer.
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          • Redfusion900
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2019
            • 5

            #6
            Originally posted by Bp9145
            I usually have a large container/bottle of cold ice water and I just take a gulp and blow it into the rudder water inlet and watch it exit through the water outlet. Gets the motor and esc cooler but I do it slowly as in short bursts and let sit for about a minute before blowing more cold water. I don't know if it matters or not but I just don't want to cool it immediately. . . so by doing it in short bursts and letting it adjust slowly to the cold water I feel, imo, I don't shock my motor and esc if it even matters. I usually only do this when I have a bunch of kids waiting to get their turn or when I want to run that particular boat again and again. But I have 3-6 boats for the neighborhood kids to play with. . .lots of fun!
            Thats where I originally got the idea from.

            Originally posted by Peter A
            Why Ice water? Ambient temperature is sufficient. You don't even need a 12v pump, just use a 5 liter pressure sprayer.
            Agreed, I just figured I could use the ice water to lower the temps prior to the run. That is what we did when I was running snowmobile grass drag setups.. pre and after cooling with ice water. In our hobby It seems to be accepted that a cooler ESC and motor have less resistance that they do hot. Hence the ice water.

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            • StevenBryant
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 359

              #7
              [QUOTE=Redfusion900;737520]
              Originally posted by StevenBryant
              I believe a few people on OSE have tried this, from memory condensation was an issue with the esc.

              Hmm.. being a supposed waterproof ESC I wonder how or where it would condensate. Theoretically it should be sealed from all internal condensation, in that case I would think it would be ok.
              Not all speed controllers are waterproof, if your running a fully sealed waterproof esc then condensation will not be an issue.


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              • Peter A
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2012
                • 1486

                #8
                Originally posted by Redfusion900
                Thats where I originally got the idea from.



                Agreed, I just figured I could use the ice water to lower the temps prior to the run. That is what we did when I was running snowmobile grass drag setups.. pre and after cooling with ice water. In our hobby It seems to be accepted that a cooler ESC and motor have less resistance that they do hot. Hence the ice water.
                Yes but as soon as the boat runs again the ambient temperature water will just bring the temp back up and you could end up with the condensation issues. Don't forget that different metals expand and contract differently and the potential is there to create problems.
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                • Fluid
                  Fast and Furious
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8011

                  #9
                  SAW racers do/did this, but after cooling everything we sealed the system since pond water would quickly warm things back up. It worked well without differential expansion issues, but this would not work for extended oval racing.

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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Redfusion900
                    Anyone thought of filling a cooler with ice water and running a small 12v pump with a y adapter to hook up to your pickups to cool the motor and ESC between packs and before a run? Curious of everyone's thoughts..
                    That's just plain silly........

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                    • properchopper
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 6968

                      #11
                      Here's another bright idea I experimented with (rather unsuccessfully) - fill tube with freezer pack blue ice, inline with onboard cooling setup to cool while underway. No bueno...........


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                      Was relegated to the pile of other ideas that bombed such as the styrofoam turn fin & the edible propeller
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                      2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
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                      • Bp9145
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Jan 2016
                        • 1466

                        #12
                        Originally posted by properchopper
                        Here's another bright idea I experimented with (rather unsuccessfully) - fill tube with freezer pack blue ice inline with onboard cooling setup. No bueno...........


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                        Was relegated to the pile of ideas that bombed such as the styrofoam turn fin & the edible propeller
                        LMAO!!! I've done the same thing in the past and even worse ideas that I don't care to share. .LOL I'm glad I'm not the only "genius" in fe boating. .

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                        • Bp9145
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 1466

                          #13
                          Originally posted by properchopper
                          Here's another bright idea I experimented with (rather unsuccessfully) - fill tube with freezer pack blue ice inline with onboard cooling setup. No bueno...........


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                          Was relegated to the pile of ideas that bombed such as the styrofoam turn fin & the edible propeller
                          LMAO!!! I've done the same thing, well similar, in the past and even worse ideas that I don't care to share. .LOL I'm glad I'm not the only "genius" in fe boating. .

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                          • pescador
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 499

                            #14
                            I use a USB powered submersible pump in a water bottle with ice, I run it with a small power pack phone charger. I only use it to chill the motor and it does an amazing job. I just got back from the Nats in Salt Lake and it got a good workout in the heat.



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                            • fweasel
                              master of some
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 4286

                              #15
                              I prefer to liquid cool the driver.
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