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  • 00quattro00
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 4

    #1

    Help with rudder placement

    I need some help with setting up this mono with a speedmaster stinger strut and rudder that I bought from ose. I have only ever had tunnels and monos with outboards on them so dont know how long the rudder needs to be and how far offset

    The boat is 33" long, I was given a turnigy 3974 220kv motor and 120A esc to run in it and have 3s batteries



  • Jesse J
    scale FE racer
    • Aug 2008
    • 7116

    #2
    Without any knowledge of how you intend to run your boat,
    i would suggest a length of 100-130 mm unless going for speed then 60-80mm
    My standard for off set is leading edge even with drive dog and as close without hitting the prop.

    Mount the stinger first (5-10ish mm above keel), run in the flex with prop (if you are meaning 2200kv, then pretty small) and set up rudder just to the starboard by about a half a prop diameter, but main thing is that it doesn’t hit at full left.

    If you want more left turn as in sport running, put the rudder farther in front of the prop.

    Just my thoughts based on the no context question.
    "Look good doin' it"
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    • 00quattro00
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2017
      • 4

      #3
      Originally posted by Jesse J
      Without any knowledge of how you intend to run your boat,
      i would suggest a length of 100-130 mm unless going for speed then 60-80mm
      My standard for off set is leading edge even with drive dog and as close without hitting the prop.

      Mount the stinger first (5-10ish mm above keel), run in the flex with prop (if you are meaning 2200kv, then pretty small) and set up rudder just to the starboard by about a half a prop diameter, but main thing is that it doesn’t hit at full left.

      If you want more left turn as in sport running, put the rudder farther in front of the prop.

      Just my thoughts based on the no context question.
      It will just be used for a bit of fun, no racing.

      Yes motor is 2200kv.

      Any recommendations on prop size to start off with

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      • Jesse J
        scale FE racer
        • Aug 2008
        • 7116

        #4
        Well to keep using your 120amp esc (which is way low, really need 150-180) and not blow it up, I’d start with a 40-42mm prop. If you went to180amp, you might be able to get away with a 45, maybe 48mm, depending on ho loose you set things up. That was all assuming 4s, which would be max I’d ever run on that high of kv. I would strongly recommend against trying 6s, unless you ran a 28mm prop and only did one pass. I prefer lower kv motors.

        Recall that amp draw is high with high kv motors, so you need a bigger esc; this will be your limiting factor when you want more speed. Small prop increases will produce greater amp draw increases than with a low kv motor.

        All that said, if you are determined to run the stated setup, I recommend running your 3s in parallel and not going above a 45mm prop. Even still keep checking on temps.
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        • Northwoods
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2019
          • 29

          #5
          Originally posted by 00quattro00
          I need some help with setting up this mono with a speedmaster stinger strut and rudder that I bought from ose. I have only ever had tunnels and monos with outboards on them so dont know how long the rudder needs to be and how far offset

          The boat is 33" long, I was given a turnigy 3974 220kv motor and 120A esc to run in it and have 3s batteries
          If your going to put a (Outboard on it ) No need for Rudder ,, Just Trim Plates and Turn Fins ,, The outboard is the Rudder
          I got the pic off a different Tread ( By ,, MadProps ) that is a Twin but do the same with a single Outboard

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          HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST TOYS WINS

          Russ

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          • 00quattro00
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2017
            • 4

            #6
            Originally posted by Jesse J
            Well to keep using your 120amp esc (which is way low, really need 150-180) and not blow it up, I’d start with a 40-42mm prop. If you went to180amp, you might be able to get away with a 45, maybe 48mm, depending on ho loose you set things up. That was all assuming 4s, which would be max I’d ever run on that high of kv. I would strongly recommend against trying 6s, unless you ran a 28mm prop and only did one pass. I prefer lower kv motors.

            Recall that amp draw is high with high kv motors, so you need a bigger esc; this will be your limiting factor when you want more speed. Small prop increases will produce greater amp draw increases than with a low kv motor.

            All that said, if you are determined to run the stated setup, I recommend running your 3s in parallel and not going above a 45mm prop. Even still keep checking on temps.
            What motor/esc/battery combo would you run in it?

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            • 785boats
              Wet Track Racing
              • Nov 2008
              • 3169

              #7
              This may be of help.
              It is for Leo's JetChopper 30", but it will proportion out to a 33" hull. Especially if your hull is around 230mm wide.

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              See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
              http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=319
              http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...hp?albumid=320

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