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  • Crash
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 313

    #16
    Originally posted by Prodrvr
    Where are you getting your flex shafts from?
    I have tried stock, OSE HD and dasabota.
    I am in the process of installing a Speed Master stinger in it now, to improve what was the stock stinger.
    I also bought a lower wattage higher kv motor.
    still a 8s motor but should not have the power to snap drives.
    Last edited by Crash; 10-26-2018, 08:31 PM.

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    • rol243
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2017
      • 1038

      #17
      good flex shafts; cc racing / prather / speedmaster / hughey[ if you can get ] . also don,t cut into the hard shaft too much for those grub screws. i keep this shallow and remove any excess screw so all is flush on the dog. Crash, also have you considered trying a lower kv motor and run larger props. ?

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      • Crash
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2015
        • 313

        #18
        Originally posted by rol243
        good flex shafts; cc racing / prather / speedmaster / hughey[ if you can get ] . also don,t cut into the hard shaft too much for those grub screws. i keep this shallow and remove any excess screw so all is flush on the dog. Crash, also have you considered trying a lower kv motor and run larger props. ?
        I have a 52mm prop that is a blast to run but, they producd more torque then the 46mm I have been trying lately. And the 52mm produced 380 amps on the data log. The smaller props get you there too with less amp draw in my boat.
        I am pushing 70 plus now with my boat, ill be at 80 plus on this next set up.

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        • photohoward1
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Mar 2009
          • 1610

          #19
          Post some pics of the set up let’s have a look. Running some pretty powerful set-ups on 6s. Don’t go to a ¼ until 8pr 10s. Alignment is key.


          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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          • Prodrvr
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 701

            #20
            Could always try a shaft from MHZ.

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            • rol243
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2017
              • 1038

              #21
              common breakage of shafts can result from the drive dog contacting the strut which in tern causes severe drag / binding when the shaft contracts. motor wants to turn shaft but can,t due to binding on strut so something will give. this is like holding the prop tight so it can,t move then applying some motor power.

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              • Nevs
                Sven
                • Sep 2011
                • 164

                #22
                With 10.000 watts peaks you would need a 1/4 flex.
                How much power is enough power?. No idea. it depens on what you want and where you run your boat. The boat I had /have the most fun with is a very light (10 pounds) 47" Delta Force copy. It can run full speed for 8-10 min, on 12s /4000. The top speed is in the low 40. But its "enough" for that pond.
                So in this case 100-125 watt/pound is fine.
                I tryed a bigger prop, (62mm). Gained less then 10 mph. Had less fun and less running time.

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                • Crash
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 313

                  #23
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                  New set up going in
                  8s 2070 kv
                  3600 watt
                  X646 prop from Dr. Props
                  SF 300 X
                  Last edited by Crash; 10-27-2018, 10:41 AM.

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                  • Crash
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 313

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nevs
                    With 10.000 watts peaks you would need a 1/4 flex.
                    How much power is enough power?. No idea. it depens on what you want and where you run your boat. The boat I had /have the most fun with is a very light (10 pounds) 47" Delta Force copy. It can run full speed for 8-10 min, on 12s /4000. The top speed is in the low 40. But its "enough" for that pond.
                    So in this case 100-125 watt/pound is fine.
                    I tryed a bigger prop, (62mm). Gained less then 10 mph. Had less fun and less running time.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tcpHLrk63g
                    I think in the my case you answered the question for me. 10,000 watt is too much for my set up. Its 3 times what is needed to move this hull around and more then the flex shaft can take in my set up.
                    I will update this thread when I get some data of the logger for the new motor.

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                    • NativePaul
                      Greased Weasel
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 2760

                      #25
                      I hope your going to run your cells in parallel for 4s2p and not as 8s with the new 2070kv motor.

                      Good luck.
                      Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                      • Crash
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 313

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NativePaul
                        I hope your going to run your cells in parallel for 4s2p and not as 8s with the new 2070kv motor.

                        Good luck.
                        Ive heard that before.

                        I ran my 1650kv on 10s and got some of my best data logs to date.

                        I will run this 2070kv on 8s

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                        • Prodrvr
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 701

                          #27
                          Which motor is this 2070? That Kv on 8s has my attention!!!

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                          • Crash
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 313

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Prodrvr
                            Which motor is this 2070? That Kv on 8s has my attention!!!
                            Tp 4030 V1
                            2070kv
                            29 volt
                            124 amp.
                            1600 to 3600 watt

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                            • Crash
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 313

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Prodrvr
                              Which motor is this 2070? That Kv on 8s has my attention!!!
                              Just did some bench testing of that motor on 8s no flex shaft no prop just bolted into the boat the motor wires are getting hot right away they're not they're not enough for 8's even though the motor is rated for it stay tuned I'm going to try 6

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                              • Crash
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 313

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Prodrvr
                                Which motor is this 2070? That Kv on 8s has my attention!!!
                                Surprisingly this motor is rated for 29 volts same as my bigger motor That's rated for 29 volts but this little 2070kv only likes 5S otherwise the wire start getting hot
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