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  • ezhitz
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 428

    #1

    Floating strut bushing

    Hi
    When using a floating strut bushing how much play is ok. How often should they be replaced.
    :canada
  • grsboats
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 975

    #2
    I've been using speedmaster bushing for years on my heat boats(nitro/Gas) and honestly never replaced one .....on my Fe models lead teflon bushing.Gill
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    • rol243
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2017
      • 1038

      #3
      Gill, why don,t you use the floating bushings in the FE,s ?

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      • grsboats
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 975

        #4
        In my opinion floating bushing produce much more drag than lead theflon ones reason I prefer them but this is me.Gill
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        • rol243
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2017
          • 1038

          #5
          I thought it would be the opposite , got me thinking now Gill .

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          • urbs00007
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 826

            #6
            Originally posted by rol243
            I thought it would be the opposite , got me thinking now Gill .
            how about someone testing both with onboard tachometer?

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            • grsboats
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 975

              #7
              John I never did this test but it's easy to see that a pair of lead teflon bushing has less friction area and drag than a floating one.Recently I'm working with ball bearings on the strut of my saw riggers and its clear they are fast than bushing in few miles.Gill
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              • urbs00007
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 826

                #8
                floating strut bushing

                Originally posted by grsboats
                John I never did this test but it's easy to see that a pair of lead teflon bushing has less friction area and drag than a floating one.Recently I'm working with ball bearings on the strut of my saw riggers and its clear they are fast than bushing in few miles.Gill
                hi gil. the ultimate low drag is straight shaft in precision ball bearings. I used a short piece of flex shaft from the motor to a coupler made from steel, drilled to fit cable from engine to straight shaft on the other end. loctite held the flex, setscrew held the straight shaft. did a gas rigger with 1/4" and rigger with 3/16". driving the gas rigger was almost funny because there was no lag when taking off from a launch, the boat took off instantly. all power from motor to prop is transfered. you should try it. you just have to be able to increase aoa on front sponsons to compensate for negative shaft angle. motor needs to be inline with shaft for no drag. best way to describe it, it's like the boat is running on ball bearings it has such little drag. try it.

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                • rol243
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 1038

                  #9
                  urbs, do you have a pic of this set up ? sounds interesting.

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                  • urbs00007
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 826

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rol243
                    urbs, do you have a pic of this set up ? sounds interesting.
                    P1000963.jpgP1000965.jpg first pic shows octura u-joint setup. didnt last, so I built the cable to straightshaft coupler shown in second picture.

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                    • grsboats
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 975

                      #11
                      John I'm using piano wire as shaft and my strut has micro bearings instead of bushing,on my gas riggers just a traditional 1/4 flexshaft driveline supported by speedmaster bushing...the last time I had a boat with a u-joint was in the 80's when we used to run FSR monohulls...anyway thanks for sharing.
                      Gill
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                      • rol243
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 1038

                        #12
                        urbs, are you using a solid drive shaft on the gas rigger ?

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                        • grsboats
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 975

                          #13
                          Looking to your pics I see the ball joint held to the flexcable????? U joint are only allowed to be held to rigid shafts reason you had an issue due to vibration.My very first rigger a Crapshooter .60 had rigid shaft and boat was fast at that time but today I see lot of benefits having an adjustable strut.Gill
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                          • Shooter
                            Team Mojo
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2558

                            #14
                            I switched over to the old lead tef pressed in bushings a couple years ago on all my heat boats. No complaints so far. Simple. Limited play and limited drag.

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                            • urbs00007
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 826

                              #15
                              floating strut bushing

                              Originally posted by grsboats
                              Looking to your pics I see the ball joint held to the flexcable????? U joint are only allowed to be held to rigid shafts reason you had an issue due to vibration.My very first rigger a Crapshooter .60 had rigid shaft and boat was fast at that time but today I see lot of benefits having an adjustable strut.Gill
                              hi gil. the u-joint and the flex shaft to coupler were 2 different ways to connect to a straight shaft.

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