Twin XLX Zonda what TP Motor and props ????

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  • Speedfreek
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 276

    #1

    Twin XLX Zonda what TP Motor and props ????

    As the title states, modifying two XLX's waterproofing, cooling mods from ideas on this site thanks guys .
    I have been running the XLX in my rc car and know all the ins and outs of the software and i love it.
    So the big question is what size TP Can 40?? should i get and what kV ?
    Going to be 6S per ESC .
    Looking for best of both worlds run time and speed 80mph
    Turnigy Graphene batteries Specs:
    Capacity:*!**5000mAh
    Voltage:*!**6S1P / 6 Cell / 22.2V
    Discharge:*!**65C Constant / 130C Burst
    And what prop to use with it ?
    Rx and servo will be powered by a 6.6V life battery even tho two XLX's have 20A bec each
    And it's in a Zonda.

    I have to stop looking at this forum, you guys keep giving me idea's and i keep spending more money
    Last edited by Speedfreek; 04-17-2018, 11:12 PM.
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  • fweasel
    master of some
    • Jul 2016
    • 4286

    #2
    TP4050 1460kV, 1570kV, 1700kV variants on 6S will put you right around the 30K RPM range and is a good size motor for that hull.
    Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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    • Speedfreek
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2018
      • 276

      #3
      Nice nice what do you think of 4060 1700kv ?
      Isn't the magic number these days 40k rpm range so i have been told or is the Zonda not capable of doing this?
      Last edited by Speedfreek; 04-17-2018, 09:44 PM.
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      • fweasel
        master of some
        • Jul 2016
        • 4286

        #4
        Your RPM depends on what you want out of the boat. I'm using 4060 2450kV motors on 5s in my 45" cat for SAW runs. I'm also going to run a 4060 1750kV on 6s in my 37" Genesis, again for SAW runs only. Both of those setups will be around 45K RPM, unloaded, and will have only enough battery for a handful of passes. Search for existing builds on that hull and research what people are running setup wise and what the resulting speeds and run times work out to be.
        Vac-U-Tug Jr (13mph)

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        • Speedfreek
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2018
          • 276

          #5
          Originally posted by fweasel
          Your RPM depends on what you want out of the boat. I'm using 4060 2450kV motors on 5s in my 45" cat for SAW runs. I'm also going to run a 4060 1750kV on 6s in my 37" Genesis, again for SAW runs only. Both of those setups will be around 45K RPM, unloaded, and will have only enough battery for a handful of passes. Search for existing builds on that hull and research what people are running setup wise and what the resulting speeds and run times work out to be.
          Thanks for the reply, i have searched until my head lots and lots of info
          Just want to lock it in now .
          Ok 4060 locked in, now for kV 1750 or 1950 , my head hurts
          Last edited by Speedfreek; 04-18-2018, 05:45 PM.
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          • Speedfreek
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 276

            #6
            Originally posted by Speedfreek
            Thanks for the reply, i have searched until my head lots and lots of info
            Just want to lock it in now .
            Ok 4060 locked in, now for kV 1750 or 1950 , my head hurts
            Can i get some help

            This is what i do know, the 1750kv is a 3Y 213A 29v

            And the 1950kv is a 5D 248A 25.6V, which is where about a 6S Lipo is fully charged

            What does that 5D, 3Y mean ?

            What is better ?
            Last edited by Speedfreek; 04-19-2018, 09:25 AM.
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            • srislash
              Not there yet
              • Mar 2011
              • 7673

              #7
              Originally posted by fweasel
              Your RPM depends on what you want out of the boat. Search for existing builds on that hull and research what people are running setup wise and what the resulting speeds and run times work out to be.
              Careful where you send him Ryan, lol.

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              • srislash
                Not there yet
                • Mar 2011
                • 7673

                #8
                Originally posted by Speedfreek
                Can i get some help

                This is what i do know, the 1750kv is a 3Y 213A 29v

                And the 1950kv is a 5D 248A 25.6V, which is where about a 6S Lipo is fully charged

                What does that 5D, 3Y mean ?

                What is better ?
                Ok, a 6s lipo under load will likely pull down to 23-24 volts so you can get the readings from that more realistically.
                If you are not experienced yet too much go with the 1750 3y.
                Y & D are in relation to how the winding in the motor are done. The numbers are how many winds of wire are in the motor.

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                • dmitry100
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 1264

                  #9
                  I have a TP 4050 2050kv motor in great condition available in the for sale section, in case you are interested.
                  It would run good on 5s or 6s. I ran it on 6s and clocked 107mph with it

                  If you are looking to run it as a twin, I have a second motor that is exactly the same which I can also sell.

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                  • Speedfreek
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 276

                    #10
                    Originally posted by srislash
                    Ok, a 6s lipo under load will likely pull down to 23-24 volts so you can get the readings from that more realistically.
                    If you are not experienced yet too much go with the 1750 3y.
                    Y & D are in relation to how the winding in the motor are done. The numbers are how many winds of wire are in the motor.
                    Thanks i might go for the D wind, even tho i am not that experienced, i don't want to be purchasing lots of motors to get to 80 ish mph.
                    So 1950 kv seems like the one to get no !
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                    • Speedfreek
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 276

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dmitry100
                      I have a TP 4050 2050kv motor in great condition available in the for sale section, in case you are interested.
                      It would run good on 5s or 6s. I ran it on 6s and clocked 107mph with it

                      If you are looking to run it as a twin, I have a second motor that is exactly the same which I can also sell.
                      Wow how good is that, yes it is a twin and from what i read on the forum here the 4060 is good at holding rpm (torque) but thanks for the offer
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                      • Old School
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 686

                        #12
                        From what I have read a D wind will run cooler with more torque and a Y wind will spin faster with more heat. A "D" wind should be "timed" between 0 - 3.5 and a "Y" wind timing is usually factory set on the ESC at 15, but I prefer 11.25.

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                        • Speedfreek
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 276

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Old School
                          From what I have read a D wind will run cooler with more torque and a Y wind will spin faster with more heat. A "D" wind should be "timed" between 0 - 3.5 and a "Y" wind timing is usually factory set on the ESC at 15, but I prefer 11.25.
                          Thanks for the extra brake down i appreciate it
                          What part of Australia are you ?
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                          • Old School
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 686

                            #14
                            I am in Sydney.

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                            • Speedfreek
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 276

                              #15
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