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  • urbs00007
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 826

    #1

    zipkits fe 33

    building this kit to run my leopard 4082 1600kv on 6s with a seaking 180. battery is a 5000mah 70c revo 420. video is of my abs rigger or 5 years ago. in everyones opinion will this fe33 run as well as this boat in the video, or should I consider a TP on 4s with higher mah. to make the 6s 5000 mah battery fit, I had to remove battery mount and redo. I heard someone mention that a TP 3650 on 4s might run longer than a 4082 on 6s. if i went to 3650 on 4s with high mah, could i use the 180 esc? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW9nbYBlsEI
  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8012

    #2
    Two things influence run time - amp draw and pack capacity. Motor efficiency has a minor influence, but for a given speed a 6S setup will pull only 2/3rds the amps of the 4S setup, and you may not the large format 4082 motor, a 3674, 3685 etc. would probably work. So with the same battery capacity the 6S setup will run much longer...except that the packs will weigh 50% more and take up more space. So for the same weight you can use higher capacity 4S packs and get the same run time as the 6S setup.

    If I didn’t have to worry about racing rules, I’d run the 6S setup. It’s easier on the components and for the runtime is about the same cost. Racing rules depend on the class.


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    • Moonie
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 325

      #3

      6s Jae Leo 4082 1550kv 120amp dynamite esc ABC H7 5000mha 50c cheap Lipo. I heat raced it and it never harmed the lipos.
      Gold Spilo

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      • urbs00007
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 826

        #4
        zipkits fe33

        Originally posted by Fluid
        Two things influence run time - amp draw and pack capacity. Motor efficiency has a minor influence, but for a given speed a 6S setup will pull only 2/3rds the amps of the 4S setup, and you may not the large format 4082 motor, a 3674, 3685 etc. would probably work. So with the same battery capacity the 6S setup will run much longer...except that the packs will weigh 50% more and take up more space. So for the same weight you can use higher capacity 4S packs and get the same run time as the 6S setup.

        If I didn’t have to worry about racing rules, I’d run the 6S setup. It’s easier on the components and for the runtime is about the same cost. Racing rules depend on the class.


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        thanks fluid, kinda what i thought. wish i didn't already have 2 6s packs. can't see letting them sit in storage.

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        • urbs00007
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 826

          #5
          Originally posted by Moonie
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ZIasTsUCw
          6s Jae Leo 4082 1550kv 120amp dynamite esc ABC H7 5000mha 50c cheap Lipo. I heat raced it and it never harmed the lipos.
          good runner.

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          • Moonie
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 325

            #6
            I used a TP3650 2200kv and SK160 with 5000mha 50c lipo last season in a keps P rigger. Wasn't super fast but It didn't do bad. End the race with 3.8v or above per cell.
            Gold Spilo

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            • urbs00007
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 826

              #7
              zipkits fe33

              Originally posted by Moonie
              I used a TP3650 2200kv and SK160 with 5000mha 50c lipo last season in a keps P rigger. Wasn't super fast but It didn't do bad. End the race with 3.8v or above per cell.
              that was 4s, right? what batteries were you using? how does the keps p compare to the jae33? what prop did you use on the 6s leopard? might build another jae 33 for a tp3650. sorry for all the questions, lol.

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              • rol243
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2017
                • 1038

                #8
                Is the T.P. 3650 2200 kv or 2350 kv,s ?

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                • urbs00007
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 826

                  #9
                  zipkits fe33

                  Originally posted by rol243
                  Is the T.P. 3650 2200 kv or 2350 kv,s ?
                  post #6

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                  • Moonie
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 325

                    #10
                    Originally posted by urbs00007
                    that was 4s, right? what batteries were you using? how does the keps p compare to the jae33? what prop did you use on the 6s leopard? might build another jae 33 for a tp3650. sorry for all the questions, lol.

                    Yes the keps is 4s P rigger. I used cheap electron pro 5200 50c on both the Jae and keps. The keps is slower to me than a Jae. I used a ABC H7 on the Jae.
                    Gold Spilo

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                    • rol243
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 1038

                      #11
                      Originally posted by urbs00007
                      post #6
                      urbs00007, are you sure you have a 2200 kv - t.p. 3650 motor ? they don,t seem to make that size. they go from the 1900 odd kv to the 2350 size no 2200 in the middle.

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                      • urbs00007
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 826

                        #12
                        zipkits fe33

                        Originally posted by rol243
                        urbs00007, are you sure you have a 2200 kv - t.p. 3650 motor ? they don,t seem to make that size. they go from the 1900 odd kv to the 2350 size no 2200 in the middle.
                        don't have the motor yet. was thinking of building a boat and buying a tp 3650.

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                        • rol243
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 1038

                          #13
                          The 3650 - 2350 kv motor does have some good power .

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                          • MarkF
                            dinogylipos.com
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 979

                            #14
                            If you want a good 6s rigger I would suggest the ML boatworks 380 rigger kit. It has plenty of room for 2 6s 5000 or even 6000 mah packs. I run a TP 4070 1520 with an ABC 2215 prop and the boat drives like a cadillac. It's close to 80 mph and is so fun to drive. The Jae33 is more of a 4s boat and space will be tight. The ML 380 rigger is 4 1/4" wide and 38" long. It's a big boat with lots of room for everything. One of these days I will get a video of it running. If you go this route I will be glad to help you and show you all the parts I used.

                            painted rigger.jpg



                            Mark
                            Last edited by MarkF; 02-14-2018, 07:33 PM.

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                            • rol243
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 1038

                              #15
                              Looks nice Mark, love the fluro orange on natural wood. would be great if we had 6s class rigger racing over here in aussie land.

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