twin outboards on deep vhull advice

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  • MadProps
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 236

    #1

    twin outboards on deep vhull advice

    could use some advice on prop shaft height before I start drilling the hull to mount motors...
    using the setbacks my props on the outboards will be as far back behind the boat as the stock Pursuit prop is sitting with the inboard motor setup so they should be running in somewhat similar conditions as a stock pursuit setup


    thanks for looking

  • Old School
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2017
    • 686

    #2
    Have you seen this video -

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    • MadProps
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 236

      #3
      I have seen that thanks, but he has his motors so deep and his boat ran slow....I am not sure, I want other opinions

      after setup on my stock pursuit I found that an 1/8 variance in prop height can equate to 10mph variance so Im trying to get this setup close as I can before I start drilling
      Last edited by MadProps; 01-11-2018, 09:09 PM.

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      • rol243
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2017
        • 1038

        #4
        i think the safest method of setting up the twin outboards would be to make up 2 x aluminium plates that can be bolted onto the transom at the selected spacings so you can adjust the motor/s up or down to get the correct prop to water settings. this would look ok and be part of the motor bracket.

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        • Old School
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2017
          • 686

          #5
          Originally posted by MadProps
          I have seen that thanks, but he has his motors so deep and his boat ran slow....I am not sure, I want other opinions......
          The builder does state firstly that he is not after a high speed boat and secondly in the final test he did not have a rescue boat so was only running at 50% throttle input to avoid overturning the boat. That said, I believe the video was around three years old and in his subsequent uploads he did not post a further video since on the boat so perhaps it was not as great a success as he planned.

          Following on from the suggestion above a complex but workable solution would be a tapped fixed plate to the transom and a slotted adjustable plate affixed to the outboard mount. The degree of adjustment would be limited by the adjustment slots on the moveable mount plate. This in inline with the previous suggestion above.

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          • MadProps
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2017
            • 236

            #6
            I made an adjustable jackplate

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            • JestDanny
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2017
              • 174

              #7
              I tried that motor as a single on a 26" deep vee with some success. I set my ride height and thrust angle like I would set up a tunnel boat, surface drive, center of prop shaft just a fraction above hull bottom. I ran it on 4s2p, I had a few handling issues, chine walk and some porpoising, the boat showed some potential, after several runs trying to get it dialed in I was just getting close and the boat stopped dead in the back stretch. I broke the flex shaft loosing the prop, drive dog, nylon washer, along with the broken shaft. Yes the shaft was greased between runs, 6 /8 months later the thin wet spagatti noodle flex shaft was still not in stock at mfg.'s web site. Now I see the shafts are available but the drive dog and washer are not, no matter that motor was tossed in the trash long ago.
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              • Steven Vaccaro
                Administrator
                • Apr 2007
                • 8723

                #8
                I mounted mine with the prop shafts about even with the lowest part of the V. It runs great UNLESS I knuckle the throttle. Then it lists to one side and sticks like it's glued. I was going to add tabs to help this in the future.

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                • CraigP
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2017
                  • 1464

                  #9
                  Steve, is that with counter rotating props?

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                  • MadProps
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 236

                    #10
                    thanks guys will mount them even with bottom of V

                    Steven do you think it lays over because it needs counter rotating props?

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                    • Steven Vaccaro
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8723

                      #11
                      They are counter rotating. I tried them both ways. Similar issues.

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                      • CraigP
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2017
                        • 1464

                        #12
                        Another probably stupid question, please bear with me, I’m trying to understand this dynamic. Are the motors in the outboards spinning counter or is the counter rotation created by the lower end unit?

                        And are the motors mounted vertically or horizontally in the outboard housings?
                        Last edited by CraigP; 01-12-2018, 12:43 PM. Reason: Addition question

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                        • Steven Vaccaro
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8723

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CraigP
                          Another probably stupid question, please bear with me, I’m trying to understand this dynamic. Are the motors in the outboards spinning counter or is the counter rotation created by the lower end unit?

                          And are the motors mounted vertically or horizontally in the outboard housings?
                          In most of them that I know of, the motor controls the reversing of the prop. I dont know of any with gears that are doing the work. But thats not to say they arnt out there.
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                          • MadProps
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 236

                            #14
                            disappointing to hear......maybe I should mount these motors on a cat if they cant be run properly on a V
                            thanks for the input
                            out of curiosity Steven whats speeds are you seeing with 2 of these on a v hull

                            thanks
                            Last edited by MadProps; 01-12-2018, 01:21 PM.

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                            • CraigP
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2017
                              • 1464

                              #15
                              So we can probably rule out prop torque. I know some of those lower units have small trim tabs on the side. Is it possible that one side is skewed relative to the other and you’re getting lift from that when you punch it? The only other thing is that the boat’s side to side weighting is off. In my mono, I run batteries along each side, to put weight there and help stabilize the boat. It’s like a tight rope walker using a balance bar... That’s all I got. I guess trim tabs might be the last resort. I know you know all this.... just thinking out loud..

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