Yet another Atlas test...

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  • Navherc130
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 151

    #16
    Craigp, with your current setup are your run times 2 minutes-ish or 4 minutes-ish? What model is your boat, can I see?

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    • CraigP
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • May 2017
      • 1464

      #17
      More like 3-1/2 to 4, that's driving pretty aggressively. It might just run the 6 lap sactioned events as it is.. I emailed ya. The boat is a DF Vortex 34. I've done some pretty extensive mods. I'll email you some pics...

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      • MarkF
        dinogylipos.com
        • Mar 2008
        • 979

        #18
        The delta force is a 4s 34" boat that has a hard time staying on the water and the atlas is I believe an 1/8 scale 6 to 8s boat. Apples to oranges. Not that you couldn't run more or less cells in each boat. And I would cut out the front brace to be able to run 2p. Pretty normal to have to do this on wood boats.
        In race water we get pretty choppy conditions and a bigger prop helps with this. If you run in glass then any prop can work. Doesn't mean it's the right prop if you want to optimize your set up and get the most out of it.
        A sanctioned race is 1 mill lap, 6 race laps with the potential of 2 penalty laps. So your boat needs to be able to do 9 laps if you want to race. That's why we run 2 packs in parallel.

        Mark

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        • Navherc130
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 151

          #19
          Nah, MarkF. She is a Mlboatworks 1/10 frameup. Thanks. Brace coming out.

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          • MarkF
            dinogylipos.com
            • Mar 2008
            • 979

            #20
            So a little smaller than a 1/8 but still needs to run 2p.

            Mark

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            • CraigP
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • May 2017
              • 1464

              #21
              Originally posted by MarkF
              The delta force is a 4s 34" boat that has a hard time staying on the water and the atlas is I believe an 1/8 scale 6 to 8s boat. Apples to oranges. Not that you couldn't run more or less cells in each boat. And I would cut out the front brace to be able to run 2p. Pretty normal to have to do this on wood boats.
              In race water we get pretty choppy conditions and a bigger prop helps with this. If you run in glass then any prop can work. Doesn't mean it's the right prop if you want to optimize your set up and get the most out of it.
              A sanctioned race is 1 mill lap, 6 race laps with the potential of 2 penalty laps. So your boat needs to be able to do 9 laps if you want to race. That's why we run 2 packs in parallel.

              Mark
              The statements you make about the Vortex are 100% true about the stock hull. But I do not have a stock hull... so they don't apply to my application. It is a good base hull. The biggest trouble are the sponsons. There is much said about it packing air and all, but those troubles go back to the sponsons. I have posted many pics on my sponson modifications, but have not posted the actual dimensions of these changes. I just let you know, my boat is extremely stable and running a controlled 8s setup. It is propped to pull the power rating of the motor, making it a very fun sports boat to drive! It will not run in competition, of which I have no desire to do anyway... Since I was speaking with Steve about my boat to his, your remarks about apples and oranges is completely off the mark. It might be better if you actually gathered some facts, before making blanket statements about someone's boat.

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              • MarkF
                dinogylipos.com
                • Mar 2008
                • 979

                #22
                I know all about your 8s boat Craig and the problems with the delta force. My friend has one. I have been racing rc boats for over 25 years. I know a little bit about the subject.

                Mark

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                • CraigP
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2017
                  • 1464

                  #23
                  Not saying you don't have a huge base of experience. But how does your friend's boat compare to mine? The sponson changes have made a huge difference! I'm hitting mid-60's already and the boat's stability is so much better than vids I've seen on the boat stock. This boat is junk, unless you change things. I have no air dams either. Obviously you don't believe my claims, I accept that. I haven't posted a vid yet. So I'll just stop posting about it until I do get the vid. This thread is not the appropriate spot for this conversation. My apologies to Mark...

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                  • Navherc130
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 151

                    #24
                    Crashed the Atlas today. No damage,thank goodness. Stab even stayed on. Had the x648 on 5s today and went surprisingly slower than the m645. Only by 3-4 mph. Thought it would be other way around. She was coming down onto her sponsons after getting air and one must have been too steep. Looked like it caught the front lip and air dam between fork. Went butt over with a twist and miraculously landed right side up. She was furthest away from me on the circuit I was doing. Also have a leak somewhere, quite a bit of water in the boat. Tried 6s after That on the 445 just to be safe. Slower still, but I was afraid to drive it full gas. That outrunner really whines!!
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                    • CraigP
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2017
                      • 1464

                      #25
                      Mark, make sure your motor is rated for the voltage your using! Get the model number and look it up on the inter webs. Glad to hear she stayed together!

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                      • MarkF
                        dinogylipos.com
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 979

                        #26
                        Craig

                        I am the only Mark in this thread so i don't think you were talking to me in that last post. I think you need to slow down and think before you type. I never said there was nothing wrong with your boat and my comments were aimed at the thread starter and his Atlas boat. Not You and your vortex. Nothing I said was aimed at you and your boat. So stop attacking me! It's people like you is why the real boaters don't come here anymore to post. The fact that you got a crappy boat to work say you're a model boater. Good for you and you get a Big pat on the back from me. But you seem to like to take the low road and burst out mean comments in this thread and now I see in another thread you threw another one my way where I know you were talking about me. Stop acting like a child and if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I know we all have a hard time following that rule but at least we should try.

                        Mark

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