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  • slider46
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 75

    #1

    Genesis setup questions

    I just bought a Genesis cat and will be running the stock motor for now with a seaking 180 ESC.. I'm switching to a 3/16 drive and I have both 4s and 6s 5000MAH 50c min packs for it. My question is what is a good setting for the strut height, also the strut angle number would help too. eventually I would like to go with a bigger motor but for now this is where I am.
  • slider46
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 75

    #2
    WOW.... Nobody is running a genesis boat on here??? They have the upgrade parts here for sale so I figured someone must be running this boat

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    • runningman
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 103

      #3
      Ask here http://www.rcgroups.com/racing-boats-electric-57/

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      • slider46
        Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 75

        #4
        I did a search and only one post about the genesis boat where here there are a lot of posts just no strut settings props used... Thanks for the link

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        • Maximus
          Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 47

          #5
          I have a Genesis glad to give you some help. Set boat on flat table. Strut should be 1/8" off table and level with table.

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          • Maximus
            Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 47

            #6
            Should have mentioned also if you are using the stock 2075 SSS motor go with 4s and I had good luck with a x443 prop. Battery placement is critical. Move them as far back as you can to get the front up to the point of blow over. Boat works best in light wind and chop on the water. Hates flat dead calm water too much drag on hull. I got 43 mph with that set up.

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            • slider46
              Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 75

              #7
              Again thank you for this info, I could have spent days getting to the point where I had a decent setup to run with... I have 2 weeks to get this boat into the water because of a jass festival at the local park we run at but I would like my first electric boat to run good out of the box. If you have any other tips I might be able to use please feel free to share..

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              • Maximus
                Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 47

                #8
                When you want to go faster let me know glad to help

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                • slider46
                  Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 75

                  #9
                  We all want to go faster but let me get the hull wet and used to driving it and "I'll be back"..... for more information to go with the 6s setup...

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                  • SD Eracer
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 262

                    #10
                    Originally posted by slider46
                    I just bought a Genesis cat and will be running the stock motor for now with a seaking 180 ESC.. I'm switching to a 3/16 drive and I have both 4s and 6s 5000MAH 50c min packs for it. My question is what is a good setting for the strut height, also the strut angle number would help too. eventually I would like to go with a bigger motor but for now this is where I am.
                    Sorry, just saw your post, I have pretty good experience with the Genesis. The hull reacts different to motor, kv, cells, and prop setup.

                    On a side note, if you run the SeaKing/Turnigy 180a ESC. MAKE SURE to calibrate the throttle at least 1 time before each boating session, or you will only be running the boat at 80% throttle. To calibrate, pull throttle to 100%, turn on ESC, hear 2 beeps, release throttle, 1 long beep, then it should finish arming. Make sure to do this or you boat will run slower than it should. I really wished Hobbywing would make you calibrate your throttle every time you arm it, like Aquacraft does.

                    For strut angle, I would start at 2-3mm negative from neutral. Do a few laps and see how the boat is riding. Then adjust the strut up so at -1mm negative to neutral. Do a few more laps. Keep doing this until the boat either rides too high or too easy to flip. Then back it down 1mm.

                    For both my Genesis, they run neutral on the strut, it's completely flush with the strut mount. However, I run an airdam to prevent blow over at speed. If I didn't run the airdam, I would have to run the strut at about 2mm negative and lose about 5 mph.

                    If you run your Genesis at above 50mph, you MUST reinforce the hull and canopy. It will eventually crack after a few flips. You don't have to go fancy with carbon fiber, a layer or two off fiberglass cloth and resin will do just fine.

                    Below are some videos with my Genesis in either 4S and 6S for reference.

                    Here is my Genesis on 6S on-board:



                    Another on 6S, sorry for the talking:



                    On 4S, again sorry for the talking:

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                    • slider46
                      Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 75

                      #11
                      SD Eracer I see you run an airdam can you give me some details on what/where it is, and how to build one correctly. Sounds like an easy fix for a problem with a cat hull..

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                      • SD Eracer
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 262

                        #12
                        Sure, it's just the carbon airdam for the UL-1 on Kintec Racing website.

                        Just cut it to fit the width of the Genesis, and use some outdoor double sided tape to apply it, about 2.5 inches from the front of the boat.

                        I have run in over a year in salt water and it hasn't come off. It has really helped the blow over issue for me. Also, I run my batteries in the sponsons, and my ESC as far front as I can.

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                        • slider46
                          Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 75

                          #13
                          Can you post a picture of the airdam I would like to make one and we have a local hobby shop that carries a good stock of items.

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                          • SD Eracer
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 262

                            #14
                            Sure, check out post #14 of this thread link below, I post a couple of pics of my airdam for the Genesis. Also, this is a good thread to read about the benefits/issues with airdams.

                            http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ghlight=airdam

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                            • slider46
                              Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 75

                              #15
                              I'm going to the hobby shop tomorrow and pick up some 3/8" cf square tubing and add the air dam to my genesis thanks for the tip...

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