Promarine?

[T.S.Davis]

Mr. Davis: If one were to build one of these with a twin motor 4s setup, is there an active class at the MMEU pond for it?

Sorry Keith there isn't. You would have to go single limited motor to run with us.

[ray schrauwen]

th there isn't. You would have to go single limited motor to run with us.

What? No P cat at MMEU? Blasphemy I say! Of course you didn't say NO and you didn't say yes either...

[TRUCKPULL]

What about "P" Offshore??

Larry

[T.S.Davis]

You guys are confusing the MMEU pond and the Michigan Cup. We haven't even talked about the cup classes yet. P cat would likely make sense at the Michigan Cup. Especially if this new cat is able to take a true P pounding. A twin for P cat at a cup would work. Think it's 5k per side max. I'd have to look at the book again. Twin would be legal for P offshore too. Same thing though. 5k per motor.

At the club level we're already class heavy. Based on the numbers MMEU will have 6 trophy classes for 2016. That's plenty.

[HTVboats]

I was at Huntsville actually parked next to Mike and did watch him run. Nice looking hulls and build quality was impressive. The boat ran fast for an RTR and I wish he would of put down some lap times so we could see how it turned at speed. The "P" cat 1/3rd mile is 32 something and totally within reach even for an RTR. Much less potential damage going for ovals over SAW records. Hope there will be more interest in oval record for cats as that is the best indicator of handling for a heat race boat. When I look to buy a hull if it is in the record book that's a big plus.
A SAW record 'through the traps" is also a real accomplishment. You don't get to choose your conditions and may have to wait for the water to lay down and then your not close in the rotation so by the time your called the wind came back up. You also have to run a full 330' (plus acceleration distance)both down and into the wind for an average to get a record. In testing the radar gun or GPS will give you a speed and when you run through the traps your surprised you lost 5-7 mph.
On to Blue Lake with Jeff and Jay at the wheels and see if we can lower some more cat ovals. P-Q and S
Mic

[JMSCARD]

I was at Huntsville actually parked next to Mike and did watch him run. Nice looking hulls and build quality was impressive. The boat ran fast for an RTR and I wish he would of put down some lap times so we could see how it turned at speed. The "P" cat 1/3rd mile is 32 something and totally within reach even for an RTR. Much less potential damage going for ovals over SAW records. Hope there will be more interest in oval record for cats as that is the best indicator of handling for a heat race boat. When I look to buy a hull if it is in the record book that's a big plus.
A SAW record 'through the traps" is also a real accomplishment. You don't get to choose your conditions and may have to wait for the water to lay down and then your not close in the rotation so by the time your called the wind came back up. You also have to run a full 330' (plus acceleration distance)both down and into the wind for an average to get a record. In testing the radar gun or GPS will give you a speed and when you run through the traps your surprised you lost 5-7 mph.
On to Blue Lake with Jeff and Jay at the wheels and see if we can lower some more cat ovals. P-Q and S
Mic

Just being a consumer here, not a racer... I still get a lot more satisfaction running my boats like I'm racing, even if its just against myself. I myself truly find it odd that most folks new to the hobby immediately always want to know "how fast does it go".... I'd rather like to know "can I pin the throttle and keep it pinned for 3 minutes straight"? I think its a lot more impressive seeing a boat not just go fast, but be able to do so at full whip through the turns watching not only the prop rooster, but rudder wash flying in the air...

I'd much rather see more models produced that have a better mix of race water handling bred into them... one it means less paddling, wading or recovery vesseling when you do push the limits... but also is much more of a hoot for me at least, then to just watch a boat zoom by... mind you I like fast boats, but its nice seeing posts about not just zoom zoom... there is just something about a cat coming out of a turn at full roost!

[properchopper]

[QUOTE=JMSCARD;651256]Just being a consumer here, not a racer... I still get a lot more satisfaction running my boats like I'm racing, even if its just against myself. I myself truly find it odd that most folks new to the hobby immediately always want to know "how fast does it go".... I'd rather like to know "can I pin the throttle and keep it pinned for 3 minutes straight"? I think its a lot more impressive seeing a boat not just go fast, but be able to do so at full whip through the turns watching not only the prop rooster, but rudder wash flying in the air...

I'd much rather see more models produced that have a better mix of race water handling bred into them... one it means less paddling, wading or recovery vesseling when you do push the limits... but also is much more of a hoot for me at least, then to just watch a boat zoom by... mind you I like fast boats, but

"its nice seeing posts about not just zoom zoom... there is just something about a cat coming out of a turn at full roost!"

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[rayzerdesigns]

I was at Huntsville actually parked next to Mike and did watch him run. Nice looking hulls and build quality was impressive. The boat ran fast for an RTR and I wish he would of put down some lap times so we could see how it turned at speed. The "P" cat 1/3rd mile is 32 something and totally within reach even for an RTR. Much less potential damage going for ovals over SAW records. Hope there will be more interest in oval record for cats as that is the best indicator of handling for a heat race boat. When I look to buy a hull if it is in the record book that's a big plus.
A SAW record 'through the traps" is also a real accomplishment. You don't get to choose your conditions and may have to wait for the water to lay down and then your not close in the rotation so by the time your called the wind came back up. You also have to run a full 330' (plus acceleration distance)both down and into the wind for an average to get a record. In testing the radar gun or GPS will give you a speed and when you run through the traps your surprised you lost 5-7 mph.
On to Blue Lake with Jeff and Jay at the wheels and see if we can lower some more cat ovals. P-Q and S
Mic

Though i agree with most.. A 2 lap is still in smooth water compared to race water confitions

[Doby]

I'd much rather see more models produced that have a better mix of race water handling bred into them... one it means less paddling, wading or recovery vesseling when you do push the limits... !

All boats have a major design flaw that prevents your wish from ever becoming true....the person holding the transmitter.

[properchopper]

While it certainly may ruffle the feathers of the ZSP/WTS* crowd, some say that your boat isn't complete 'till it can do a mill + 6 on the 1/6 mile.

*(ZoomSplashPlop/What'sThatSmell)

[JMSCARD]

John that hurts! Lol... but in reality I agree for the most part, but as we all know all boats aren't created equal... Some turn better then others... Perfect example is let's take a common first boat a SV27 and a DF26, the df even being a " shorter is much more fun for me myself then running a SV... Standing on a dock and constantly splashing myself going low 40's full speed through corners is fun ... Feeling like every time you get close to full throttle using a supervee the boat is totally on edge and ragged isn't as much..

[keithbradley]

John that hurts! Lol... but in reality I agree for the most part, but as we all know all boats aren't created equal... Some turn better then others... Perfect example is let's take a common first boat a SV27 and a DF26, the df even being a " shorter is much more fun for me myself then running a SV... Standing on a dock and constantly splashing myself going low 40's full speed through corners is fun ... Feeling like every time you get close to full throttle using a supervee the boat is totally on edge and ragged isn't as much..

That's a pretty poor example though. Both boats in your example look like Chinese spaceships and aren't very fast. It's pretty easy to choose the one that performs better, because the other one doesn't have much to offer beyond that. If you compare a boat that looks like a real boat and is fast to one that is super wide and corners well, you have a different discussion.
There are a lot of boats out there that look great and go fast, but aren't ideal for heat racing. There are also boats that corner quite well but look more like a toy boat than a real boat, and are somewhat limited in straight-line potential. I think both types have their place, as well as some models that land right in the middle of the spectrum.

I've seen the Promarine model run enough to say that it's NOT a miss. The hull works. The remaining question is more in regards to which one of these categories it fits. It's either the heat race boat (and definitely the best looking one I've seen if that's the case), or it's the in-between. It's definitely not a straight-line only boat.

[properchopper]

".............. a DF26 " ".............Both boats in your example look like Chinese spaceships and aren't very fast....."

DF 26 Current NAMBA records :

Straightline :

N-2 Mono [2cell] : 76.323mph

P-Mono [4-cell] : 80.616mph

2-Lap :

N-2 Mono : 28.452 seconds

P-Mono : 26.616 seconds (that's smokin !}

Boat now in my humble hands going after my P-Ltd Mono SAW record (set with a JetChopper30)

Just Sayin' (with apologies for going off topic)

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[keithbradley]

".............. a DF26 " ".............Both boats in your example look like Chinese spaceships and aren't very fast....."

DF 26 Current NAMBA records :

Straightline :

N-2 Mono [2cell] : 76.323mph

P-Mono [4-cell] : 80.616mph

2-Lap :

N-2 Mono : 28.452 seconds

P-Mono : 26.616 seconds (that's smokin !}

Boat now in my humble hands going after my P-Ltd Mono SAW record (set with a JetChopper30)

Just Sayin'

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You're making my point for me Tony! (I think you may have slightly misunderstood it)

The DF26 in HIS example was running low 40s. Although he didn't state a speed, the SV27 in his example likely isn't any faster, and it doesn't corner as well. That's why it's a bad example. There's nothing that the SV27 really has to offer in this comparison, unless you simply have a soft spot for SV27s. If I'm not mistaken, the point was that some prefer running through the corners hard and running the oval over making quick, straight speed passes. If you choose the DF26 to represent one of those camps, I don't see where the SV27 can represent the other.

One could clearly see where something like an HPR would appeal to a different crowd than a Team Believer would, for example. One of those boats is really good at going fast, and has more of a scale look that appeals to some; the other is really wide and can take a corner at high speed, making it a much better choice for heat racing.

[skater368]

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