Recommendation for stable rough water boat

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  • floatsonwater
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 17

    #1

    Recommendation for stable rough water boat

    I had an Impulse 31 V2 and while crazy fast, you need to run it on perfectly calm water or it's always going upside down. I run on big lake that is never calm so I'm looking for a better option as I'm tired of swimming every time I run the boat. I do not race or run with other boats so I'm not concerned about squeezing every mph out of a boat. I just want a top notch boat that is very stable, very reliable while still fun to drive. Even better, would be an option that is self righting. Not so worried about cost if it's checks all the boxes.

    Some options I've looked at are Voracity, Revolt, Kyosho Jetstream 888 (self righting), Spartan, Ariane 2.

    The new Pro Boat Voracity looks like a nice option since it's larger, but is the hull design the same as the Impulse? I'm thinking I need something with a deeper V haul than the Impulse which seems more geared to racing than stability.
  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #2
    Welcome to the forum! Bigger is better when it comes to stability on rougher water. The voracity would be a good choice because of its size...it's not really a sized up impulse 31. I wouldn't run it on 6s in rough water but 4s (40ish mph) and 5s (mid to high 40's) should be fine. If you propped down to say a m445 and ran it in 6s it would probably be manageable as the prop that comes on it is fairly aggressive, although it's a good prop. I like the revolt but I think it's too small for your intended use. Spartan I wouldn't even consider. And the others I've never had any dealings with.
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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    • z400
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 1311

      #3
      What about a ToySport Triton 32" Mono?
      Z
      KBB34" Mono - Fast
      ToySport Triton- Not as fast

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      • FearSys
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 13

        #4
        I agree that the Spartan shoudn't be a consideration. I have 2 of them and love my Traxxas cars and trucks, but no matter how much money you put into a Spartan, at the end of the day you still have a plastic hull. To me, it looks like the Voracity is everything the Spartan should have been.

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        • dethow
          Wired Racing
          • Oct 2014
          • 1500

          #5
          If I were you... I'd go with anything that self-rights. Pretty much any boat will go upside down if you hit some chop to fast or wrong. Obviously a larger boat will handle larger chop but it WILL happen.
          I don't know anything about the Jetstream 888 you listed as self-righting but I do know Atomic came out with a slightly larger Barbwire at 24.5" and that is self-righting with a flood chamber. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFDWG&P=0

          Another option you might consider if you find a boat you really like but it's not self-righting... Build yourself a rescue/retrieval boat. You can find a few threads on here with some basic ideas on what and how to do it. http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ht=rescue+boat
          Have fun with that....

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          • z400
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2007
            • 1311

            #6
            Supporting what dethow has stated above..


            I have a 32" Toysport Triton mono that is self righting that i am wanting to part with.
            Runs mid 60's on 6's.
            Z
            KBB34" Mono - Fast
            ToySport Triton- Not as fast

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            • floatsonwater
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 17

              #7
              I really like the new Voracity, looks like an awesome boat. If the haul is not a scaled up Impulse 31, that might be good for what I'm looking for. Would be nice to see some videos of it in choppy water.

              Toysport Triton looks like a decent option. Had not seen that one before. Mid 60's is pretty darn fast z400! Any video's of that in action? What are you selling it for?

              I checked out the Barbwire XL and it looks like a fun boat, was hoping for something a little bigger though.

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              • floatsonwater
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2015
                • 17

                #8
                Was watching some videos on youtube and came across the HK Princesss Yacht, 40" self righting, fiberglass haul, real wood deck. Handles amazing, check out this video of it jumping waves.

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                • z400
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1311

                  #9
                  Ive got a video of it, ill get it posted in the morning.


                  It may be out of your price range just going by the price of the other FE boats you are mentioning.
                  Ill be posting it for $800 shipped.
                  It will need a radio, a single 6s battery and a x447 or x448 prop.
                  Z
                  KBB34" Mono - Fast
                  ToySport Triton- Not as fast

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                  • z400
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 1311

                    #10
                    Z
                    KBB34" Mono - Fast
                    ToySport Triton- Not as fast

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                    • Flying Scotsman
                      Fast Electric Adict!
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 5190

                      #11
                      I have a Triton and it will self-right, if setup properly, test in a bathtub to make sure that you have placed weight correctly in order for it to self-right. A better option for choppy water is a MHZ Lizard Xtreme, which I also have, but no self-right, but very stable. Also DO not swim to retrieve your boat...check out many threads on this no no practise.

                      Douggie

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                      • zooma
                        Local club FE racer
                        • May 2014
                        • 652

                        #12
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                        Ron - The Villages, FL

                        https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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                        • zooma
                          Local club FE racer
                          • May 2014
                          • 652

                          #13
                          Originally posted by floatsonwater
                          Was watching some videos on youtube and came across the HK Princesss Yacht, 40" self righting, fiberglass haul, real wood deck. Handles amazing, check out this video of it jumping waves.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFy64pVWrcQ
                          I'll tell you that I was completely fooled by that video, and several others on YouTube. Nobody ever tells you what they had to change to get that kind of performance. I figured that I would get some decent performance on four cells. Not even close. With the stock 1620kv motor and the stupid prop they put on it, and a four cell pack on the mounting plate, it went all of 8 MPH, with the bow plowing through the water. Started changing props and moving the battery back. By the time I got to an Octura M645 and the battery back by the servo tray, I got it up to a whiz-bang 18 MPH. So I swapped out the 1620kv motor for a new Dynamite 2000kv motor. Now I had to prop way down to a Proboat 4019 (40mm, 1.4 pitch ratio) to keep from overheating the motor. But, I am finally getting 25 MPH, and the boat looks like the one in that video. I am going to settle for this, because it gets a lot of attention and I am not cooking anything. And, BTW, in order to change props, I had to replace the 4MM two piece shaft with a 3/16 one piece. So, I really like the Princess, but it needed a lot of modification to perform well.
                          Ron - The Villages, FL

                          https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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                          • floatsonwater
                            Junior Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 17

                            #14
                            Nice video of the Triton, I had actually seen that one before and thought ut oh, is it going to self right!

                            Zooma...you are bursting my bubble here. I just ordered the Princess before you posted based on these videos. Seemed like it was pretty fast and handled really well. 8 mph sounds pretty lame. Every think about running it at 6S?

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                            • zooma
                              Local club FE racer
                              • May 2014
                              • 652

                              #15
                              Originally posted by floatsonwater
                              Nice video of the Triton, I had actually seen that one before and thought ut oh, is it going to self right!

                              Zooma...you are bursting my bubble here. I just ordered the Princess before you posted based on these videos. Seemed like it was pretty fast and handled really well. 8 mph sounds pretty lame. Every think about running it at 6S?
                              6s, not me, but might be worth a try. I think that you would have to do two 3s in series and mount them next to the motor. I would welcome your test results. Stock prop is wacko. 12x48 with severe back cut at trailing edge. I don't know if the 12 means 1.2 pitch ratio or just 12 mm total pitch.
                              Ron - The Villages, FL

                              https://castawaysboatworx.org/

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