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  • boilo56
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 390

    #1

    Collet for twin cat... which one?

    Hi! I have ordered a HK C1 Flowmaster twin cat, and i want to get rid of the little aluminium coupler. But i don't know if there are reversed collets. Will standards collets works both ways?
  • DCMW
    Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 87

    #2
    Go to Kintec racing and on the left side scroll down to Couplers and have fun, all good stuff with counter rotating collets.

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    • boilo56
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 390

      #3
      Originally posted by DCMW
      all good stuff with counter rotating collets.
      What do you mean by that?

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      • DCMW
        Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 87

        #4
        They have collets for left and right rotation twin systems that's what I'm understanding your first question to be pertaining to??

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        • tlandauer
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 5666

          #5
          Originally posted by boilo56
          Hi! I have ordered a HK C1 Flowmaster twin cat, and i want to get rid of the little aluminium coupler. But i don't know if there are reversed collets. Will standards collets works both ways?
          To my knowledge, the TFL stainless steel collet in the 5mmx3/16 size does come with reversed thread. I will say that if you are running .150 cable, then you are left with no possibility with a reversed thread.
          If you want to spend a bit more money, this collet won't give you any trouble for reversed rotation.http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=mbp-1000 it is a clutch type of mechanism, so rotational force plays a minimal role in it.
          Too many boats, not enough time...

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          • tlandauer
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Apr 2011
            • 5666

            #6
            Originally posted by DCMW
            Go to Kintec racing and on the left side scroll down to Couplers and have fun, all good stuff with counter rotating collets.


            Originally posted by boilo56
            What do you mean by that?

            Fifth item down the page.
            Too many boats, not enough time...

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            • boilo56
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 390

              #7
              Originally posted by DCMW
              They have collets for left and right rotation twin systems that's what I'm understanding your first question to be pertaining to??
              Hi, sorry, i misunderstood the meaning of your statement. speak french, and sometime, i have difficulties to get the real meaning of things. I''l check kintec, ut i have no luck with kitec latelly. Back order items, long time to ship the order... Maybe i'll give an other try.

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              • boilo56
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 390

                #8
                Originally posted by tlandauer
                To my knowledge, the TFL stainless steel collet in the 5mmx3/16 size does come with reversed thread. I will say that if you are running .150 cable, then you are left with no possibility with a reversed thread.
                If you want to spend a bit more money, this collet won't give you any trouble for reversed rotation.http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=mbp-1000 it is a clutch type of mechanism, so rotational force plays a minimal role in it.
                How does this collet works? i never saw that kind of collet.

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                • boilo56
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 390

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tlandauer
                  To my knowledge, the TFL stainless steel collet in the 5mmx3/16 size does come with reversed thread. I will say that if you are running .150 cable, then you are left with no possibility with a reversed thread.
                  If you want to spend a bit more money, this collet won't give you any trouble for reversed rotation.http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...?prod=mbp-1000 it is a clutch type of mechanism, so rotational force plays a minimal role in it.
                  How does this collet works? i never saw that kind of collet.

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                  • martin
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2887

                    #10
                    Not sure if your aware of the motor & flex diameters in the Flowmaster, the motor is 3.17mm or 1/8" & the flex is 3.12mm.

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                    • boilo56
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 390

                      #11
                      Originally posted by martin
                      Not sure if your aware of the motor & flex diameters in the Flowmaster, the motor is 3.17mm or 1/8" & the flex is 3.12mm.
                      I knew about the motor, and i was guessing the flex was this size. But Thanks, now i can order the collets and better flex shaft! HK is back-order on all the spare parts for this boat...!

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                      • tlandauer
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 5666

                        #12
                        Originally posted by boilo56
                        Hi, sorry, i misunderstood the meaning of your statement. speak french, and sometime, i have difficulties to get the real meaning of things. I''l check kintec, ut i have no luck with kitec latelly. Back order items, long time to ship the order... Maybe i'll give an other try.
                        Andre, where are you in Quebec? I went to Orford for music camp in the mid 80's ( that makes me an old fart). Still have such fond memory of that part of the world, really beautiful. I fell in love with a beautiful French Canadian girl....
                        Originally posted by boilo56
                        How does this collet works? i never saw that kind of collet.
                        This was introduced to me by other racers and boaters. I build a twin and was searching for reverse collet for the 5mm x .150 size, had no luck and used them and have been very happy. I had used the 5mm x .187 before for normal rotation and I know that the machining of the metal parts and the threads is extremely true and precise. Note that it is made of aluminum alloy, the hex nut that you tighten for the collet really grabs the prongs so the cable is really secured.
                        The so-called "clutch type" refers to how it is secured on the motor shaft. It is not secured the regular way like a set (grub) screw on the side and you need a flat spot on the motor shaft. The way it is secured to the motor shaft is by way of two screws on the side of the collet, you tighten them and they "shrink" the part that slides on the motor shaft. You don't need a flat spot----in fact, not all motors can use then if the flat spot is too wide, Their instruction clearly illustrates that.

                        Here are some pics of my H&M Intruder S Twin build:DSCN7539.jpg DSCN7538.jpg DSCN7522.jpg DSCN7671.jpg
                        Too many boats, not enough time...

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                        • martin
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2887

                          #13
                          Yes 3.12mm or .123" is a non standard diameter flex, most flex couplings are .130" & the stock flexes will be loose in the .130 collet coupling.

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                          • boilo56
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 390

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tlandauer
                            Andre, where are you in Quebec? I went to Orford for music camp in the mid 80's ( that makes me an old fart). Still have such fond memory of that part of the world, really beautiful. I fell in love with a beautiful French Canadian girl....
                            I live at about 1.5 hour from there!

                            So, those collet thighten on standard side, but can be used in reversed application, And don't loose up?

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                            • boilo56
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 390

                              #15
                              Originally posted by martin
                              Yes 3.12mm or .123" is a non standard diameter flex, most flex couplings are .130" & the stock flexes will be loose in the .130 collet coupling.
                              Can i use .130'' in the stuffing tube?

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