TFL F1 Caudwell-Available!!!

[Monica Smith]

TFL F1 Caudwell-Available!!!

Hello dear all,

Thanks a lot for your patience and attention! After nearly two years waiting, now TFL F1 IS Released to market! More information welcome to inquiry your local TFL dealers or inquiry TFL sales!

Hull Dimension
Length: 750mm
Beam: 290mm
Height: 160mm

TFL Stock configuration:
SSS 2960 KV2881 Motor
70A ESC

2 Blade Copper propeller

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYDtkGPNIMk

Caudwell F1-09s.jpgCaudwell F1-01.jpgCaudwell F1-03.jpgCaudwell F1-06.jpgCaudwell F1-05.jpg

[Monica Smith]

Caudwell F1-04.jpgF1 Drive System B42525-D.jpgF1 Drive System B42525-A.jpgF1 Drive System B42525-B.jpgF1 Drive System B42525-C.jpg

[Namba328]

TFL F1 Caudwell-Available!!!

Hello dear all,

Thanks a lot for your patience and attention! After nearly two years waiting, now TFL F1 IS Released to market! More information welcome to inquiry your local TFL dealers or inquiry TFL sales!

Hull Dimension
Length: 750mm
Beam: 290mm
Height: 160mm

TFL Stock configuration:
SSS 2960 KV2881 Motor
70A ESC

2 Blade Copper propeller

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYDtkGPNIMk

[ATTACH=CONFIG]133966[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]133967[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]133968[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]133969[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]133970[/ATTACH]

Monica does the "outboard unit" remove from the hull in one piece? if not then the "outboard unit" is not legal for namba due to Namba rule book section 19 sub section c. 1a: An outboard motor is defined as a complete internal combustion power and propulsion unit that can be attached to and removed from the hull as one unit. Or for electric if you want to go off that section. Its Namba rule book section 28 page 12 sub section 4ci: An “outboard” is defined as a complete motor and propulsion unit that can be attached to and removed from the outside of the hull as one unit.

Now don't take this as me bad mouthing the boat and unit. I really like its design. I just want to know if because the unit is partially inside the hull and 2 it looks like it has to be taken apart to be removed from the hull if this is true and makes it illegal for namba. So other people please chime in aswell.

[785boats]

Here's a question for you then Tommy.
If the unit was attached to a mounting plate & that plate was attached to the transom with 4 screws & a gasket in such a manner that the whole assembly can be removed, would that comply with the regs?
Obviously it will leave a section of the transom missing when removed, but the motor & drive unit are removable as a complete assembly.
I ask, because if I were delve into the tunnel side of this hobby, this is the one I would like to race.

Cheers.
Paul.

[wuzofoz]

would this unit be classed as an OUTBOARD? it looks a closer design to a stern drive unit to me.

[T.S.Davis]

Motor would have to be outside the boat.

[Doby]

Motor would have to be outside the boat.

Don't think so...if i remember correctly, it just has to be removable in one piece.

From the NAMBA rule book;

"An “outboard” is defined as a complete motor and propulsion unit that
can be attached to and removed from the outside of the hull as one
unit."

As long as it can be removed from the outside of the hull, no problem, doesn't matter if the motor is under the cowling.

If you could make the transom removable with the whole motor/outdrive unit attached as well, it would be legal (at least in my demented thinking)


The bigger question would be, would one of the spec/approved (whatever) motors fit on it?

[T.S.Davis]

"An “outboard” is defined as a complete motor and propulsion unit that
can be attached to and removed from the outside of the hull as one
unit."

You're splitting hairs John. This isn't anything new. It's been tried by the nitro boys.

You could build it so that the entire a$$ end of the boat comes off with motor, mount, servos, even the batteries. The motor is still inside the boat. I relatively certain that the organizing body is of the same opinion. The intent is/was that the propulsion including the motor be from outside the boat. This is one of those rules where people want it to say in exact letters what you can't do it but it doesn't. So they make the leap to "I can do anything it doesn't say I can't". It was written with the attitude that "everyone knows what an outboard is".

The real boat it's modeled after caused the same kind of raucous with the tunnel circuit. It's an IO as far as they were concerned too. It's an Inboard motor with an articulating Outdrive.

Incidentally, these run really well. We've raced one with the TFL leg and an AQ 2030. You need a jack plate to get the elevation right but they run great with no modifications to the bottom.

[Doby]

You're splitting hairs John. This isn't anything new. It's been tried by the nitro boys.

You could build it so that the entire a$$ end of the boat comes off with motor, mount, servos, even the batteries. The motor is still inside the boat. I relatively certain that the organizing body is of the same opinion. The intent is/was that the propulsion including the motor be from outside the boat. This is one of those rules where people want it to say in exact letters what you can't do it but it doesn't. So they make the leap to "I can do anything it doesn't say I can't". It was written with the attitude that "everyone knows what an outboard is".

The real boat it's modeled after caused the same kind of raucous with the tunnel circuit. It's an IO as far as they were concerned too. It's an Inboard motor with an articulating Outdrive.

Incidentally, these run really well. We've raced one with the TFL leg and an AQ 2030. You need a jack plate to get the elevation right but they run great with no modifications to the bottom.

Well then, its time for the bodies to evolve....if its racing in real life with the "outboards", then it should be in RC as well...Lets add this to the TP Motors/HV LiPo proposal!

[T.S.Davis]

That's just it John. It isn't.

It raced in 2013 and 2014 with the UIM H2O F1 series. It placed last out of 9 teams with 5 points for the 2014 season and only 1 point for 2013. The last race for the Caudwell was Nov of 2014. It hasn't raced yet this year with UIM. They have 6 races yet though so it's possible.

I have no clue if it raced APBA but I did find in the rules for their "Champ" boats where it says an outboard motor has a motor that's.......out.....board. That's their version of F1 as far as I know.

To me what makes OPC a different animal is the weight distribution and the fact that you are in effect rotating the entire drive system to steer the boat. All that rotating mass outside of the running surfaces of the boat.

I knew there was a debate before on this kind of thing. From 2011 on IW. Spooky the crap I remember. There was more than one thread about it and just like FE.....some guys totally lost their composure.
Enjoy. http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=48768

It certainly could get proposed by I'm willing to bet that the purest will put up a big stinky fight.

[785boats]

Well that settles it for me. Thanks. But it would still make a good fun sport boat.

[T.S.Davis]

It's a great race boat. Just needs a different strut.

[shua]

Where are these boats available in the US?

[ray schrauwen]

Like the white, yellow and black 32" Cat at the nats that ran in Spec cat and some open hydro classes?? Now I'm kicking your nards

Motor would have to be outside the boat.

[rayzerdesigns]

Cats can run with any drive..just like real boats..they can be outboards..or inboards