melting connectors

[oscarel]

Not to stir any further, but the "Y" bridge as compared to direct series hook up bullet connector is an unnecessary bottle neck, or have I been thinking wrong all these years?

I use y's and don't have issues as long as I'm not over drawing on amps. I also don't use 16g wire.

[tlandauer]

What I meant is the extra plugs. With bullet connectors, you connect the "+" to the "-" on each batteries and the remaining "+ &-" leads are connected directly onto the corresponding bullets on the ESC.

[tlandauer]

I use y's and never had an issue. I also don't use 16g wire.

Yes, I never had a problem either, especially on spec set ups. I just prefer the bullet configuration on more demanding set ups.
But I agree with you.
And as said, the thin wire has to go.

[oscarel]

What I meant is the extra plugs. With bullet connectors, you connect the "+" to the "-" on each batteries and the remaining "+ &-" leads are connected directly onto the corresponding bullets on the ESC.

Ah, sorry. Reread. Yes extra connector always adds more resistance, but he's unable to connect battery's together to form series with the traxxas connectors without some sort of adapter. Going to bullets will remove the need for the extra y connector.

[tlandauer]

Ah, sorry. Reread. Yes extra connector always adds more resistance, but he's unable to connect battery's together to form series with the traxxas connectors without some sort of adapter. Going to bullets will remove the need for the extra y connector.

It was my bad, I wasn't clear. But you are right, same goes for Deans.

[Doby]

Some people are clueless. I'm trying to give the guy some sound advice and now your going to say the prop he's running is not an issue. Yes it is. It's part of HIS issue. This thread isn't about the fact that you can run a more aggressive prop on YOUR boat. This is about his boat. Evidently he's new to this so he needs to start small. Learn the boat. Learn how to set it up correctly. Then move up. Let's be helpful here and not confuse him. By making the post you did, he's likely going to continue using too big of a prop and still have issues, get discouraged and throw the towel in. Is that what we want? I didn't think so.

I bow to your greatness and experience in all things boating........I suppose personal experience with the same boat ( and a smaller motor getting it to run with no issues on a bigger prop means nothing)...

As for your clueless remark...look in the mirror.

[kfxguy]

I bow to your greatness and experience in all things boating........I suppose personal experience with the same boat ( and a smaller motor getting it to run with no issues on a bigger prop means nothing)...

As for your clueless remark...look in the mirror.

The clueless remark was aimed at your insinuating that it's ok for HIM to run that big prop. why be so narrow minded and think that because what you know and what you can do means that a newb knows and can do the same thing? Kind of a round a bout compliment per se to you. But ok. Lol

[Doug Smock]

Let's keep it on the surface fellas. It looks like Derek got his questions answered, nice work for the most part.

[Doby]

The clueless remark was aimed at your insinuating that it's ok for HIM to run that big prop. why be so narrow minded and think that because what you know and what you can do means that a newb knows and can do the same thing? Kind of a round a bout compliment per se to you. But ok. Lol

Re read your post...arrogance personified...you make it sound like you have the only "opinion" that matters...others "opinions" are just as valid..The Spartan motor is an XL size and should turn a 48mm prop with NO ISSUES...in my opinion. I was the only one who questioned anything about his setup as possible leading to causing heat issues.

[kfxguy]

Re read your post...arrogance personified...you make it sound like you have the only "opinion" that matters...others "opinions" are just as valid..The Spartan motor is an XL size and should turn a 48mm prop with NO ISSUES...in my opinion. I was the only one who questioned anything about his setup as possible leading to causing heat issues.

I apologize if I came off as being arrogant. But. I was giving advice based on the op having issues and trying to help him resolve them. Then you contradicted what I and a couple others told him, at his expense to cause more confusion. So you can turn a lot of prop with your stock motor...well ok but what does that have to do with the op's problem? He's obviously not at your level of boating knowledge so why edge him to run more prop than he needs....right now? He needs to fix his issues, not fix just the wiring which will help greatly but then still add to it by keeping a large prop? I was just trying to help (as you were too but in a confusing way) and felt like you purposely had to contradict what I said, which I felt was not needed. I apologize that I got annoyed at it so easily but your jabs at me whenever you can is getting quite old. Back to the scheduled program......


Op to be clear, you could possibly turn more prop than you are, but do you need to? Not at this point. Your on the right track by putting bigger connectors. Good move. Think of it this way (I know your not really wanting bigger wires) you want to go faster right? Well bigger wires will help you do that. It will help carry more energy to the components that need it and in turn keep things cooler. Win-win...so just for the faster part you should want to upgrade your wires. Those Spartan motors seem to be amp hogs. So you need all the help you can get. It will also help your battery puffing situation. I'm a firm believer in start slow, start smaller and work your way up. It takes time and patience. A boat isn't like an rc car, put a bigger pinion (prop is the gears and tired of the boat) and simply go faster until the motor/Esc can't push the car any faster. No. A boat is a lot more to it than that. Strut height. Strut angle. Prop size. Prop pitch. Prop rake. Lift. Blade area. Hull attitude. Rudder length. Rudder shape. Prop shape. It goes on and on.

[domwilson]

Just watching...

[ninjanerek]

Thanks for all of the advice. I'm three seasons in on boating but I have much to learn. I was trying to keep it convenient with trx plugs but now it's time to throw down on some big boy connectors.

Just a side note about using the heavier gauge wires. When I used the 10ga series connector in the spartan, man did that thing wake up. Hopefully I'll get a similar reaction out of the lucas Oil.

Kfx, you said something earlier about throwing the towel in if I get discouraged...I haven't given up on the spartan. NOthing but trial and error with that boat and somehow I still believe I can get it running proper.

[T.S.Davis]

48mm isn't too much for the motor or the setup. First get it to run right though. Pretty sure this is what Doby was eluding too. The prop isn't THE source of the problem. It should be able to handle that but it will magnify any other problems. Strut too deep. Bind somewhere. The 16 guage wire. A cooling line plugged. Whatever.

On an 1800 I prefer an ABC 4763 but that's just me. I can turn more but I don't seem to go faster. Just hotter. I've seen a lot of X545 and X645 props work but again, that's after getting the boat sorted. You want to start small and work your way up to a 448 once it seems to be running right. An M445 is a great starting point on a Lucas.

The 16 gauge wire will cause issues. Been there done that. Thinking back I did it with Tamiya connectors. Maybe 15 years ago. I had no clue what I was doing. Sure enough there was fire. Ruined everything inside the boat. It's the most likely source of trouble on this one. Especially if it isn't the stranded wire.

For ease of use you might consider the EC5 connectors. They assemble like a plug so that your less likely to short something out just screwing around. Can't plug them in goofy either.

[montymike]

The 6.5 or 8mm that ose sells work well might seem like over kill but all I use now also don't get wires crossed like single bullets. Castle sells good ones but more money also 10g + wire.