Toysport Syncron setup advice.

[Jaybob19]

I was just wondering if anyone had any advice for what the fastest setup for the Syncron would be. Right now it has a TP 2180kv motor, Seaking 180a esc with extra cap bank and I believe a x442 prop.
I've been running it with a Dinogy 4S 65C and it seems that there's more to be had.
I don't race just bash around at the cottage for fun so any advice would be appreciated. Sorry I don't have any video of it running and I won't be able to get any soon as all the lakes up here are still frozen.
Thanks.

[photohoward1]

Throw a blown 350 small block in it. "The fastest set up" is a broad term. What is your budget?

[Jaybob19]

Ha ha that's good, I see your point maybe I should have said "faster" setup. I Guess my budget would be whatever is worth spending within reason like a decent motor and esc??

[Make-a-Wake]

and........which TP is it? 4050, 4060 etc........?

[Jaybob19]

It's the TP 4050 2180KV

[Make-a-Wake]

By the way, I notice you bought the el cheapo hull....................

Great boat, never owned one but have heard only good things.

That motor is a Beast for that hull and can swing alot of prop....................m645 is my offering

[Jaybob19]

By the way, I notice you bought the el cheapo hull....................

Great boat, never owned one but have heard only good things.

That motor is a Beast for that hull and can swing alot of prop....................m645 is my offering

Thanks Make-a-Wake I will give it a try.

[Make-a-Wake]

What kind of speed were you getting with the x442...........was that what you decided it was.....x442?

[Jaybob19]

Yes it is a x442 I just checked it, as for speed maybe mid 30's. I've never had a gps in it but it's not much faster right now than my Stiletto. The x442 was what was on it when I bought it a few years back and I don't have any other props right now to try.

[Make-a-Wake]

Yeah, i think the m645 would be a pretty good size upgrade for speed, that motor wasnt even breaking a sweat with the x442. The m645 is only 3mm more diameter, which in my opinion is all you should go with on that hull being sorta narrow, but the extra 3mm and the 1.6 pitch should push you to 50mph with decent batteries........65c you said, whats the mah?

[Fella1340]

You could always try running it on 5s, that would give it a real good boost. 6s even, just for saw runs. That will make you sit up and take notice! This is not necessarily good advice but something I would do if it was my boat. The motor and esc will handle it if the boat is set up properly. I'm surprised that your only getting mid 30's with your current combination. A stock aquacraft revolt will get into the low to mid 40's and it's lower kv and less power. Make sure the hull is running properly aired out, running wet robs speed and increases amp draw, builds up heat etc. Is the prop balanced and sharpened?
Once you got it set up the above prop recommendations should make it much quicker. 5s should really make it fly!

[Make-a-Wake]

Hi Fella, of course my recommendation was based on 4s thinking thats what he has available, that motor kv is in a great zone for 4s. But i do see that 5s, with the x442 of course, would also be an option, and a good one since his "narrowish" hull would prefer less diameter anyways.

I'll fess up and let you know that my 32" Pursuit runs a 2200kv Leopard on 4s2p 99% of the time, but i once stuck 5s in it with a smaller prop to see what it would do. In 4s2p form it runs about 50mph and with the 5s run it topped out at 59.

[electric]

Yes it is a x442 I just checked it, as for speed maybe mid 30's. I've never had a gps in it but it's not much faster right now than my Stiletto. The x442 was what was on it when I bought it a few years back and I don't have any other props right now to try.

Work your way up. Go to a m445, then if you have the heat under control a m447. Note the "m" designation. It matters. I have run a lot of boats of that size and my brother had one of your boats as well. The props are x442, m445, m447, x642..x645?. After years of running those sized boats I just work my way up on the 4 series props. You will find a very large jump with each incremental move. The m447 will be pushing it a bit, but still may work for that boat, just watch the heat build up.

I am racing in the p-limited classes both mono and hydro using tweaked m445's and m447's(but can get heat issues). Steve's here at OSE are not bent, but they are very, very nice thin sharp props. Excellent stuff.

[electric]

By the way, that Toysport Syncron is an EXCELLENT boat for its size. A really great handling boat. It's big brother the Triton (I have owned two of these) is nice, but for me, did not handle as well. I still liked the boat, just did not suit me for racing use.

Also, go to this link here:
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/conversion.htm

Go down to the calculator title "Speed Estimate". You just put in your prop, voltage, kv on the motor and type of hull. You will get an estimated top speed. This calculator will be so accurate it's a bit scary. HAHA. So long as your hull is set up correctly. It will give you a nice concept on what a given prop should do for you speed wise.

[electric]

Funny, I went back to the calculator and plugged in your set up and was getting mph estimate that was off by quite a bit(42mph). I know the number it is producing is high from experience running these props Odd. I have not used the calculator in a long time, so who knows. On a hydro with a 2000kv motor roughly you could see about 50mph -54mph with a m447. I am actually setting one up to race as we speak and I always shoot for around 50mph in p-limited hydro. You could expect a m447 to give you in the low to mid - 40's if I was guessing. The big speed difference would be how much hull you have in the water when you are running. If you set up to run with just a little bit of hull in the water it will be much faster, but less stable. More hull equals much slower, but better stability. You will see big jumps in speed by how much of the hull is "wet". Not to mention big differences in amp draw which also equates to "Heat".