New years resolution

[Chilli]

The long mill is a fun part of running fuel boats. It think it make you a better racer. It is necessary though because of the time it takes to start the boats up. I doubt FE'ers are going to want to dial down performance to get the extra run time to get through a longer mill. We run combined in D12 with the nitro guys so we use the standard mill. All boats in the water and running by 30 seconds doing a full lap. For the end of the heat, we incorperated a rule so you can pull into the infield after finishing while giving way to everyone else on the course. You have to announce your intentions to do so on the stand though because a few nitro guys have been spooked by guys turning into the infield thinking the FE boat was our of control. The result was the nitro guy laying off the throttle or taking an evasive turn resulting in a dead boat.

Just a funny thought. What if we incorperate taping up into a 1 minute mill. I could see peoples fingers getting cut off with scissors and running up to the drivers stand streaming blood. LOL

[T.S.Davis]

Just a funny thought. What if we incorperate taping up into a 1 minute mill. I could see peoples fingers getting cut off with scissors and running up to the drivers stand streaming blood. LOL

I tried to incorporate a hot pit where you would plug in your batteries and tape up your boat instead of carrying it to the water live. So you would get to the hot pit about 5 minutes before your heat. The guys before you go out. That's when you belong on the ht pit. Rented extra tables for it and everything. Was thinking........you know.......that's how it's done. Doesn't work fer crap with FE.

College football has been sketchy here in MI lately too. MSU fell on it's face. I actually started to feel sorry for U of M. Now they have Hairball. We'll see how that goes. The only premier Big 10 team is OH and they cheated to get there.

At least there's hockey. U of M and MSU have decent hockey teams. Nobody cares about hockey outside of Canada and Detroit but at least we're good at something.

[properchopper]

At Legg Lake the new P.A. calls out the next heat as being "on the beach" and tape-up can be done on the new tables adjacent to the driver's stand. 30 second full mill and into the middle when finished. (Flood chamber boats just voted "out" in the District BTW.) FE classes have a 30 second clock for launch + full mill. No off plane and with last 10 seconds left no lane switching; pitman launches then stands next to or behind driver to count laps by raising fingers (or using the electronic button thingie). First two places MUST be corner judges for next heat up. Quick untape necessary.

Most fun (OK I'm weird) : Le Mans start at WW several years ago. Turn one after start was a hoot

[Doug Smock]

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LOL No doubt!

[DPeterson]

I did not see the game, however it seems it did not take them long to come up with the ratings gathering story line. First playoff match up between Dallas and Green bay at Lambeau since the 1967 Ice Bowl. I am not a conspiracy theroy nut, but I do believe that there are alterior motives in just about every thing that takes place.

So back to the topic. No one out there has boats that can do mill laps? I am a little surprised.

Do yourself a favor and go run a nitro or gas boat in a race and check it out. Watching it won't do it. You got to experience it.

Doug

[Doby]

One positive, it could warm up your LiPos so when you hammer the throttle at the start, you should get the max out of them...

[Doug Smock]

Do yourself a favor and go run a nitro or gas boat in a race and check it out. Watching it won't do it. You got to experience it.

Doug

This is true!
Gas boat racing is lot of fun, no doubt! Love that big ole mono!

Our club president thinks it should be a rule that all FE racers own at least one gas boat. Says it improves the driving, and he's right.

I could do a few mill laps with my current limited boats.

[T.S.Davis]

One positive, it could warm up your LiPos so when you hammer the throttle at the start, you should get the max out of them...

amateur.

The Lions still would have found a way to lose I would think but we'll never know now. I hope Rogers destroys the Plowboys.

[Darin Jordan]

No way around the fact that with FE, the advantage in power by laps 5 or 6 would go to he who decided to mill the LEAST.

Gas boats are easy to drive and hardly a challenge to mill. Nitro not so much.

I raced Gas Monos for a couple of seasons but tired of the crappy attitudes and driving I encountered with your average Gas driver.

Nitro racers seem to possess the most raw driving and tuning skill, in my opinion.

[DPeterson]

Darin - What do you mean by mill the least? Sounds like milling the least is a strategy. With milling you are going to have to be "on the clock" while jocking for position with other racers. Going to have to be up to speed to accomplish both.

Funny you mention crappy attitudes. In our club it is the grumpy old nitro attitudes that is the challenge.

Milling needs to be tried. Just might bring electric racing into the mainstream. The real boats even mill.

Go Packers - Doug

[don ferrette]

I did not see the game, however it seems it did not take them long to come up with the ratings gathering story line. First playoff match up between Dallas and Green bay at Lambeau since the 1967 Ice Bowl. I am not a conspiracy theroy nut, but I do believe that there are alterior motives in just about every thing that takes place.

So back to the topic. No one out there has boats that can do mill laps? I am a little surprised.

Do yourself a favor and go run a nitro or gas boat in a race and check it out. Watching it won't do it. You got to experience it.

Doug

"First playoff match up between Dallas and Green bay at Lambeau since the 1967 Ice Bowl. I am not a conspiracy theory nut, but I do believe that there are ulterior motives in just about every thing that takes place."

AMEN to that.

As far as milling when I run my nitro stuff I set up for the race in mill time (going in water @ about 1:15) especially in twin hydro (milling @ 70+ rocks!). However other than my P mono my other FE stuff (1/8 scale and 10S rigger) do not have the mah ability to go 1 minute mill and then a full 6 then "cool down" lap. I have no issue with 30 second mill, just alter mill strategy accordingly.

[Peter A]

Regarding gassers,
1) They generally have pretty stink attitudes towards fe.
2)This is because the fumes and noise distracts them from reality.
3)Yep a lot of them don't drive well, cutting lanes etc a speciality.
4) I have a gas boat now!
5) The gas guys should do fe too.
6) Back to the bbq. Coz it's summer down here in the antipodes!

[Peter A]

Smells yummy.
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Sorry just trying to distract. Great view too.

[TheShaughnessy]

A good portion of FE racing is the mill lap isn't it? It's all in the start/getting to the start at the right time.

Last race of the season I cut two buoys trying to find lane 1. 1st place and I were close in points and he wanted me to make the extra two laps even though I was the last boat out there already just to earn the finish points vs DNf points. He was certain I'd burn up my motor. I can do the extra laps but I don't see the point. I get all the mill I need at the 30 second clock.

Part of the reason nitro/gas guys need 2 min is the get the engine started isnt it? Then bring the motor up to temp. FE boats come to the pits "started" and our motors don't benifit from warming up. Seems counter productive to me.

[Chilli]

Gas boats are easy to drive and hardly a challenge to mill. Nitro not so much.

I raced Gas Monos for a couple of seasons but tired of the crappy attitudes and driving I encountered with your average Gas driver.

Respectfully, couldn't agree with you less Darin. I'm sure I'm not telling you something you don't already know but for other's benefit, running mill laps to get to the start line at zero is easy. Doing it and consistently getting a good starting position is not. The rooster tails that the big gas boats create are bigger and more powerful than your typical FE race boats. Try to run through one of those and you will more often than not end up on your lid. More so than my FE boats. Then there are the dreaded holes in the water that the big gas mono's create that seemingly suck you in with no warning. Running gas boats is not harder than running FE boats, but it's not easier either. There is no doubt running gas boats have made me much better driver than if I would have only run FE the last four years.

Does the average gas driver really have a crappy attitude?? My guess is there are probably more gas drivers with bad attitudes at a race, but that's simply because there are more of them and classes are much more competitive. At least this is true in my neck of the woods. I have acquired a bunch of knowledge from gas racers over the years and they have been just as generous when I needed a hand or part as my FE counterparts. But in the long run, if you don't want to deal with these people, I understand. Most of us do this for fun but I find totally dodging a-holes in my life unavoidable. LOL

Doug, We've made great strides in my district in going main steam by having the FE guys integrated with the gas and nitro racers. That's really the only way to do it. But not everyone wants to go this route and I understand that. To each is own. I would love to see some FE classes offered at IMPBA national races (other than the Nitro and Gas Nats of course). Until that happens we'll always be considered the special interest group of RC boating. But if that's all the majority want out of the hobby, I'm good with that. I'm just glad I have a place to run my gas and electric boats together..