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  • Ub Hauled
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2007
    • 3031

    #16
    Simon,
    dunno if it's too late to inout but here I go...
    I like the FM radios... so far they have not let me down.
    I own a 2.4ghz radio and I had nothing but range problems.
    There are mixed feelings about the performance of the 2.4 radios with that
    being said the Futabas and the Spectrums are on top of the list on performance.
    FM has a solid reputation and these days you cannot beat the price! If you decide to get
    an FM radio do yourself a favor and do not get a 27 band, get a 75... the 27 have a limited amount
    of frequencies and they are also shared with the RTRs... just a thought.
    If you decide on the 2.4, I hope you get something that will not give you headaches (or has a receipt).
    cheers.
    Last edited by Ub Hauled; 08-30-2008, 02:16 AM.
    :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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    • J Solinger
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 197

      #17
      Here is one that I like: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LH6649**&P=1

      It is FM and 75mhz. $89.99, extra receivers are $55 and many channels are available.
      Joe Solinger

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      • Simon.O.
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2007
        • 1521

        #18
        Originally posted by Ub Hauled
        do not get a 27 band, get a 75... the 27 have a limited amount
        of frequencies and they are also shared with the RTRs... just a thought.
        If you decide on the 2.4, I hope you get something that will not give you headaches (or has a receipt).
        cheers.
        At the lake I go to I am the only RC user there so chanel selection is not an issue.
        Glitching boats is !!
        In my reading on 2.4G systems it appears that some of the most common rf interference that causes glitching in non 2.4G systems is metal-metal noise. This would be about right for me. I have 4 hulls that all have a very similar steel on brass wire drive. These are the four that cause me headaches.
        My OB tunel does not glitch on 27AM nor do my two semi-scale slow boats.
        When you say range what sort of distance over water are we talking here.

        I want trouble freee runs out to 200' that is all.
        My AM controlled tunnel will go nearly that far but the wire drive boats will go about 50' on AM or this low cost 27 FM that I have at the moment.

        A 2.4 set will cost me only a bit more than a Hitec 40mHz FM unit.

        All sugestions are welcome.
        See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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        • tylerm
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 310

          #19
          When you go to buy the acoms simon(if you do), make sure you get a good look at it pre-purchase to make sure youre happy. I saw a FM acoms a couple of weeks ago that looks very similar to the one you want and all i can say is that you'll never catch me buying one. Also they tried to fit what should have been a good sized booklet of instructions into like 3 pages which just dont work
          Just thought i'd let ya know,
          Tyler.

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          • Ub Hauled
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2007
            • 3031

            #20
            Originally posted by Simon.O.
            When you say range what sort of distance over water are we talking here.
            I want trouble freee runs out to 200' that is all.
            My AM controlled tunnel will go nearly that far but the wire drive boats will go about 50' on AM or this low cost 27 FM that I have at the moment.
            A 2.4 set will cost me only a bit more than a Hitec 40mHz FM unit.
            All sugestions are welcome.

            My 2.4 will not do more then 50 meters (that's right) to my right... not sure if it is a
            glitch that is particular to the pond I go to or if it is just a problem with the radio.
            I am too afraid to try going further on the other directions to test it out... but I will.
            I have no issues with my FM boats. I got this radio only 'cause I thought it would get more range then the FM (which is less then AM typically), but...
            Anyway, I have met people that have Futaba's FAAST and Spektrum systems that
            reported no issues and on the other hand people that have problems despite the use of these radios... anyway, good luck and don't be blinded by the sheen of the 2.4 radios, make sure you need them.
            :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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            • Simon.O.
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2007
              • 1521

              #21
              Originally posted by Ub Hauled
              , good luck and don't be blinded by the sheen of the 2.4 radios, make sure you need them.
              I need something soon for the wire drive boats as these are my quick ones!!!

              My options are
              27 AM .....................Glitch city
              29 AM .....................Glitch city I just sold one.
              27 FM......................About as good as 27AM ???

              Now for a NEW radio I can go
              Hitec FM 40Mhz
              Acoms 2.4G

              The Hitec is cheaper but that is not my main concern. I want range and control
              Last edited by Simon.O.; 08-30-2008, 07:26 AM.
              See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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              • Ub Hauled
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2007
                • 3031

                #22
                How are the return policies down there? Maybe it'll be a case where you actually have to test the equipment to see if suits your needs... if it doesn't, return the item and go for the next one. Is this something doable?
                :::::::::::::::. It's NEVER fast enough! .:::::::::::::::

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                • Simon.O.
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1521

                  #23
                  I am still doing a lot of research into this matter......as usual.
                  It would appear that the 2.4g systems are very good in general, and will suit my needs.
                  Given that a 2.4g is not a lot more in dollars that a 40mHz FM I am now leaning towards the 2.4.
                  Both are from reputable manufacturers, and I can locally source either system from a reputable supplier. One radio - one shop, other radio - other shop, both online places that I have dealt with before and CAN drive to.

                  I'll chew on it for a little more while I go and have a coffee and a fag to think.
                  Last edited by Simon.O.; 08-31-2008, 04:56 AM.
                  See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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                  • video200
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 837

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Simon.O.
                    I need something soon for the wire drive boats as these are my quick ones!!!

                    My options are
                    27 AM .....................Glitch city
                    29 AM .....................Glitch city I just sold one.
                    27 FM......................About as good as 27AM ???

                    Now for a NEW radio I can go
                    Hitec FM 40Mhz
                    Acoms 2.4G

                    The Hitec is cheaper but that is not my main concern. I want range and control
                    i have the hitech agressor 40 MHz fm and that is ok. but my futaba 3pm. 40MHz tripple the range and then some compared to the hitech

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                    • Simon.O.
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1521

                      #25
                      Originally posted by video200
                      I have the hitech agressor 40 MHz fm and that is ok. but my futaba 3pm. 40MHz tripple the range and then some compared to the hitech
                      As far as the Hitec 40FM unit is concerned, What is o.k ??
                      All I am looking for is better control than my 27AM units now gives.

                      Update. It appears that the 2.4 unit i was looking at is not the best over water.
                      So I am now leaning towards the Hitec Aggressor 2ch 40FM.

                      And when I'm off for my coffee and a fag, that is a smoke. I have had this bought to my attention.
                      See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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                      • video200
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 837

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Simon.O.
                        As far as the Hitec 40FM unit is concerned, What is o.k ??
                        All I am looking for is better control than my 27AM units now gives.

                        Update. It appears that the 2.4 unit i was looking at is not the best over water.
                        So I am now leaning towards the Hitec Aggressor 2ch 40FM.

                        And when I'm off for my coffee and a fag, that is a smoke. I have had this bought to my attention.

                        range 400 feet easely on my FE boats. cheap recevers. lacks a few of the options i like on my futaba but all in all a good and ok radio.
                        think that all the FM agressors are 3 channels though. if memmory serves it is only the agressor AM thats 2 channel.
                        Last edited by video200; 08-31-2008, 05:07 PM.

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                        • Avanti
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1280

                          #27
                          I know a lot of guys have had bad luck with the spektrum (I heard that 2.4 does not see once it gets wet, not sure of the validity of that claim) if I were to go 2.4 it would be airtronics or futaba
                          The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                          • rockwerks
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 772

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Avanti27offshore
                            I know a lot of guys have had bad luck with the spektrum (I heard that 2.4 does not see once it gets wet, not sure of the validity of that claim) if I were to go 2.4 it would be airtronics or futaba
                            airtronics, futaba, JR, spekrtum all use the same technology no real difference. I use JR radios converted to spektrum in radio control rock crawlers and often get wet and Ive never had any issues
                            an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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                            • ETOWNE
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 250

                              #29
                              I dunked a spektrum sr3100 today and all it did was shut down everything. Other than that, and I don't see it as a problem.
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                              • rockwerks
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 772

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ETOWNE
                                I dunked a spektrum sr3100 today and all it did was shut down everything. Other than that, and I don't see it as a problem.
                                same as any non waterproof receiver
                                an RC rock crawler lost in a sea of boat parts.........

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