new hull options

[turbovr6jetta]

Hey everyone, so this summer I took my revolt out with the intentions of doing something horrible to it. Equipped with a 3674 2200kv leopard a seaking 180 v3 I put her on 6s in a shallow pond. She dove to the concrete bottom and smashed the nose up pretty bad. I figure I will fix it up a bit someday but not this year. I have very little time on my hands and what time I do have is being used to build a scale tug.

So what im looking for is a hull with hardware so I dont have to devote much time to it. I would like to someday go real fast (80 or 90+) but would like to through my 3674 or even buy one more and do a dual setup and have a fun boat until I can afford to buy a bit more motor. I was looking at the CF zonda cat on kintec but it seems a bit on the big side and a bit more than I would like to spend. Anyone have any great suggestions? I dont see a lot available with installed hardware. Also I have a few mono hull boats and have never run anything else. I dont mind another but I figure I'd try out a cat.

Any advice helps.. Thanks

[photohoward1]

Really 80 or 90 on a 3674 leopard. I think that's a bit of a stretch. It takes some serious thought to go 80-90. And time.


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[turbovr6jetta]

No... I want to use my 3674 for now. Id even spring for another one and run 2.. 80 or 90 would be way down the road with better motors/hardware options. But I would like the hull to be capable of decent speeds in the future

[tlandauer]

I think it is a bit impractical to want to use a 3674 and get a hull down the road to reach that speed. Back up one step and ask your self what would be the best for your pocket? Also what is your batteries' configuration? You ran 6s, are these 2x3s or 6s lipos?
if I were you, the combo ( motor+ESC) which you have is an excellent one, although for the kind of sport running, 6s on that kv (2200) is too much. Note that there are different opinions on that one, but for your goal, it is not the best.
if you want to keep the motor, probably you need to invest in some good quality 4s or 2s's to hook them up in series.
3674 is not that big of a motor , a cat around 30" is what I would look for. Miss Geico or BlackJack29 are good hulls for that motor but these hulls are not problem-free. They porpoise if not dialed in well. You need to blue print the sposons and be patient with tuning the hull.
AeroMarine Mean Machine is an excellent hull, although I will run it with a bigger motor, a 3674 can be used and you should not have any unpleasant issues .
Also you can look for a used hull here, in that size, particularly sold by experienced boaters wanting to clear their space, in that light, a dialed in MG or BJ29 would be awesome.
Bottom line, have a budget, then go from there and ask yourself what would be the next step.
You can have someone build you something fast, I am sure you have been reading, there are several great builders here, and one with a single motor is almost doing 100 mph. I am not naming names because singling one out is unfair to the others.
Good luck and i am sure by tomorrow other more valuable opinions would be pouring in!

[kfxguy]

No... I want to use my 3674 for now. Id even spring for another one and run 2.. 80 or 90 would be way down the road with better motors/hardware options. But I would like the hull to be capable of decent speeds in the future

I understood it like Howard did at first. I had to read it about 3 times to get what you were saying.

On to your questions. You might find a hull and hardware pop up sooner or later. You'll just have to keep an eye out. The zonda is not that big really if you wanted a big cat. There aren't too many rtr cats I'd recommend that have potential to go as fast as you eventually want to go. Like Howard said, it's not that easy to break 80 or 90. Just take things slow, don't get in a hurry and learn you boat...learn how to drive it. It is a little bit of a learning curve to drive a boat at 90mph. I started slow and worked my way up. Tony (propperchopper) gave me some advice a while back that has helped me greatly. ...very simple but valuable. In a nutshell he told me to roll into the throttle when you have a really fast boat. Something that is 90mph capable you can't just pull the trigger from a dead stop. It will flip our the water (with exception of large boats) but either way nailing it isn't usually good.

[photohoward1]

Large boats flip too. I run an r42 with a lehner 3080 in it set in oval trim. I was coming up to the line at about 30mph. I was a bit early on the start. I just gunned it an man that thing went straight up and over. Could stop laughing at myself. Smooth is the way to go in all aspects of racing. Straight and roundy round.


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[turbovr6jetta]

I have many battery configurations available. Many 2s 3s 4s. I only have a couple 6s and they arent very well suited for boats. I didnt run them very often. I was usualy running 4s with this setup. And I still and confused why this seems to be an impossible task. Just as an example If I did buy the zonda cat and ran my leo and purchased another one on sale for $44 and another $100 esc it should be a fun boat for this year right? And next year bigger motors then lots of fiddleing and maybe a solid 80 or 90 mph boat? Maybe I am missing something. I was just looking something a bit cheeper maybe a little smaller. Seems like guys are running some really fast 30-40" cats

[turbovr6jetta]

I understood it like Howard did at first. I had to read it about 3 times to get what you were saying.

On to your questions. You might find a hull and hardware pop up sooner or later. You'll just have to keep an eye out. The zonda is not that big really if you wanted a big cat. There aren't too many rtr cats I'd recommend that have potential to go as fast as you eventually want to go. Like Howard said, it's not that easy to break 80 or 90. Just take things slow, don't get in a hurry and learn you boat...learn how to drive it. It is a little bit of a learning curve to drive a boat at 90mph. I started slow and worked my way up. Tony (propperchopper) gave me some advice a while back that has helped me greatly. ...very simple but valuable. In a nutshell he told me to roll into the throttle when you have a really fast boat. Something that is 90mph capable you can't just pull the trigger from a dead stop. It will flip our the water (with exception of large boats) but either way nailing it isn't usually good.

If these speeds are not in the realm of my skills and knowledge Im perfectly fine with not going that fast. But if Im spending some cash on a new hull Id like to not be limited by a hull that will only go 60 no matter how much effort and money you throw at it

[tlandauer]

I didn't completely understand what you were saying: you want to get another motor for $44 and another ESC for $100, put it in the Zonda with the motor and ESC you already have, and have fun for now. Right?
So you will buy a Zonda sans motor and ESC from Kintec, yes, that is possible.

[turbovr6jetta]

I didn't completely undersood what you were saying: you want to get another motor for $44 and another ESC for $100, put it in the Zonda with the motor and ESC you already have, and have fun for now. Right?
So you will buy a Zonda sans motor and ESC from Kintec, yes, that is possible.

Alright. Now that after some of my long winded and confusing posts are starting to be a little more clear.. Would there be a better option for a cheeper option that would come close to meeting my needs. Most importantly would be a fun boat for me now without spending tons of money on motors and esc's.

[tlandauer]

Do you want twin motor cat or single motor cat?

[turbovr6jetta]

I dont know.. A single motor would be great so I dont have to buy another motor and esc. But I would want to be able to put in a serious motor someday and go fast.. Or at least have the chance at going fast....

I guess there is another option if the was a hull that would go pretty dang fast with just one 3674 and was fairly inexpensive I could just wait and build a fast boat when i have more time and money

[tlandauer]

Single motor can go fast too, check out kfxguy ( Travis)'s build thread and some awesome videos.
My take is that ---if I may say, you need to be more sure of what you want before a happy decision can be made.
A Mean Machine hull can be had for $155, that's a good price, but you need to buy some hardware and building supplies before you can have a running boat. it all adds up. so in that sense, the Zonda is not outrageously expensive. I don't have that boat, can't say anything about it though.
Check out this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEqHaqyLdk
it is a CastleCreation 1515 1y motor on 5s, I believe.

[kfxguy]

The zonda is probably your best bet. You could buy the version with no motors and esc's and put your stuff in it. It has all the potential you'll ever want. You may need to upgrade motors from the 3674's, but in that configuration I think you have fun for a while. I can't think of any other ARTR that has as much potential. ...maybe some other guys could give you some other options.

[turbovr6jetta]

The zonda is probably your best bet. You could buy the version with no motors and esc's and put your stuff in it. It has all the potential you'll ever want. You may need to upgrade motors from the 3674's, but in that configuration I think you have fun for a while. I can't think of any other ARTR that has as much potential. ...maybe some other guys could give you some other options.

Kind of what I was thinking. And now fearing. The speeding ticket I got today is going to make the zonda hard to get by my wife. Maybe something good will come up.....