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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746

    #1

    in the 90's again...but

    Well I had a hard flip with my rivercat a couple weekends ago. Since then it hasn't run right. I've been chasing my tail to finally figure our my prop was messed up worse than I thought. Ugh. It hit the rudder when it flipped and it got bent a little. Probably more than I thought. So next time out it wanted to lift the nose before I got to full throttle. Thought it was the strut that moved. So I kept adjusting it. Then I went ran it yesterday. Same thing. Wtf? So I got a prop from dasboata the other day. He's trying to help me hit that century mark and I was at 95.6mph before all this...on 6s. Well I threw his prop on and whadduknow....it acted right once again. Now all my settings were out of whack. Damn. Drained two sets of batteries trying to get it tuned in. Finally after several passes and batteries half drained I got it to 91.3mph. Made a backup pass at 90.8. (Made a pass in between those two but forgot to start gps...rookie mistake lol). In all the passes I made, I did made two back to back passes testing my m645 copy I made of my original to one dasboata did for me. I did two copies. Sent one to him and had him tweak it and cup it a little. His tweaking picked up 1.9mph over my non tweaked prop. That's pretty solid gain! So a shout out goes to him and a big thanks. That 1818 I tried too but I'll have to get the strut right on it. I could tell it's gonna be a beast of a prop.

    I talked to dasboata yesterday because I was in the 60's and 70's yesterday and I was getting discouraged. He told me keep plugging at it. I did and glad I did. I was getting ticked. Granted the water was a little rough and my prop was screwed but still..... this is a process. I find it hard to say that you could put a boat together and have it lined out immediately. With this little cat..it's making me work for it!

    I've got it all apart right now. I'm putting a bigger cap bank on it. Putting bearings in my strut like the original had. Shortening the esc to motor wires (was actually little extensions with plus on each end...less plugs are better) and just going over the whole thing. I've got more passes on it than I kept track of so I'm just making sure everything is good on it. So...let's get back on track to that century mark shall we.....
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was
  • olwarbirds
    Magic Smoke Wizard
    • Oct 2012
    • 1136

    #2
    Travis, you will get it done I no doubt.... DJ
    Tunnels-PS295. Cats-H&M M1 Supercat Daytona rivercat. Monos-DF Cyberstorm HiTech 29. Hydros- Ms K Vac-U-Pickle Custom built 37" shovel 10th scale converted to FE Shadow. Rigger-H&M Evo II. AQ Harbortug recovery boat. Build in progress 37" cf Dragboat

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    • flraptor07
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2013
      • 2451

      #3
      Travis, I'm more than sure you'll walk all over 100mph. I'm thinkin' you've already got it, you just gotta put the boat back together and make the pass.

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      • kfxguy
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Oct 2013
        • 8746

        #4
        Originally posted by flraptor07
        Travis, I'm more than sure you'll walk all over 100mph. I'm thinkin' you've already got it, you just gotta put the boat back together and make the pass.
        Yes sir....I did some playing with battery placement today. If I move the batteries up about 1.5" it runs pretty wet but I think that's what I'm gonna need to keep it down on 8s. I'll get back out there next weekend armed with more batteries to do some testing. I'm changing all my caps right now because I'm not sure how much they have left in them. The seaking still has the factory ones. I'm running that puny castle cap bank with (4) 220uf 50v caps. ..I'm swapping that out for a bank of (5) 1000uf 50v caps......I just don't know if I should put 1000uf back on the seaking. It has (3) 1000uf 35v caps. I know I gotta go up on voltage...just don't know on the capacitance....help?
        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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        • CornelP
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 745

          #5
          I do not know if you thought about it, but, from a painful experience, I would suggest to check the bearings on the motor... After a big number of runs I was not able to get the same performance on a boat compared to when I started, so I did a lot of changes, with no effect. When I decided to change motor, I finally noticed a decent amount of play on the shaft so I changed the bearings... finally got my boat back as I remembered it.

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          • gsbuickman
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jul 2011
            • 1292

            #6
            Heya Travis ,

            Have you ever thought of running 2 props back to back on the same flex shaft, like some of the saw guys do ?. Instead of making 1 prop handle all the load, mount 2 props back to back offset 90° from each other and split the load between them. Or as it was explained to me awhile back anyway ?.....
            Last edited by gsbuickman; 10-06-2014, 12:47 PM.

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            • kfxguy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 8746

              #7
              Originally posted by gsbuickman
              Heya Travis ,

              Haveyou ever thought of running 2 props back to back on the same flex shaf, like some of the saw guys do ?. Instead of making 1 prop handle all the load, mount 2 props back to back offset 90° from each other and split the load between them. Or as it was explained to me awhile back anyway ?.....
              I've never heard of that before. Sounds interesting!
              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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              • Fluid
                Fast and Furious
                • Apr 2007
                • 8011

                #8
                ...Haveyou ever thought of running 2 props back to back on the same flex shaf, like some of the saw guys do?.....
                I have been running SAWs for over 15 years at numerous venues and have never seen or heard of this. Not that it isn't done - just not at all a common practice at least in NA. Not that it wouldn't work, but I suspect that all you probably get is the equivalent of a four-bladed prop with the back blades running in disturbed water....



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                • gsbuickman
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1292

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fluid
                  I have been running SAWs for over 15 years at numerous venues and have never seen or heard of this. Not that it isn't done - just not at all a common practice at least in NA. Not that it wouldn't work, but I suspect that all you probably get is the equivalent of a four-bladed prop with the back blades running in disturbed water....



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                  Hiya Fluid

                  I hadn't ever seen it myself either, until I ran into a transplant here. He was probably in his mid 50's & one of those wierdo beach bum acid trip gas boat racers from the california beach clan

                  We wouldn't mind them so much here, if they weren't such a menace to society when it snows out, because they sure can't drive in it. However they have some really strange ways of making boats go fast that they confabulated on a beach somewhere......

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                  • paDDY
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 127

                    #10
                    Good luck getting into triple digits!

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                    • olwarbirds
                      Magic Smoke Wizard
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1136

                      #11
                      Travis, I didnt want to just say this to you in a PM I wanted it known publicly. That CF inlay you did in my CF Fantasm is beautiful ! you cant even tell hardly that its an inlay. Sean and I both were very impressed with your quality level of work...tks brother you rock ... now for our cheetah and rivercat we are really looking forward to getting them from you after your inlay work....tks again you really hooked me up nice... DJ
                      Tunnels-PS295. Cats-H&M M1 Supercat Daytona rivercat. Monos-DF Cyberstorm HiTech 29. Hydros- Ms K Vac-U-Pickle Custom built 37" shovel 10th scale converted to FE Shadow. Rigger-H&M Evo II. AQ Harbortug recovery boat. Build in progress 37" cf Dragboat

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                      • kfxguy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 8746

                        #12
                        Originally posted by olwarbirds
                        Travis, I didnt want to just say this to you in a PM I wanted it known publicly. That CF inlay you did in my CF Fantasm is beautiful ! you cant even tell hardly that its an inlay. Sean and I both were very impressed with your quality level of work...tks brother you rock ... now for our cheetah and rivercat we are really looking forward to getting them from you after your inlay work....tks again you really hooked me up nice... DJ
                        Thanks for the compliments man! I just finished two inlays in two rivercats I'm building for two guys....check these puppies out...

                        32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • tlandauer
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 5666

                          #13
                          Travis, that REALLY looks good!
                          Too many boats, not enough time...

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                          • dasboata
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 3152

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kfxguy
                            Well I had a hard flip with my rivercat a couple weekends ago. Since then it hasn't run right. I've been chasing my tail to finally figure our my prop was messed up worse than I thought. Ugh. It hit the rudder when it flipped and it got bent a little. Probably more than I thought. So next time out it wanted to lift the nose before I got to full throttle. Thought it was the strut that moved. So I kept adjusting it. Then I went ran it yesterday. Same thing. Wtf? So I got a prop from dasboata the other day. He's trying to help me hit that century mark and I was at 95.6mph before all this...on 6s. Well I threw his prop on and whadduknow....it acted right once again. Now all my settings were out of whack. Damn. Drained two sets of batteries trying to get it tuned in. Finally after several passes and batteries half drained I got it to 91.3mph. Made a backup pass at 90.8. (Made a pass in between those two but forgot to start gps...rookie mistake lol). In all the passes I made, I did made two back to back passes testing my m645 copy I made of my original to one dasboata did for me. I did two copies. Sent one to him and had him tweak it and cup it a little. His tweaking picked up 1.9mph over my non tweaked prop. That's pretty solid gain! So a shout out goes to him and a big thanks. That 1818 I tried too but I'll have to get the strut right on it. I could tell it's gonna be a beast of a prop.

                            I talked to dasboata yesterday because I was in the 60's and 70's yesterday and I was getting discouraged. He told me keep plugging at it. I did and glad I did. I was getting ticked. Granted the water was a little rough and my prop was screwed but still..... this is a process. I find it hard to say that you could put a boat together and have it lined out immediately. With this little cat..it's making me work for it!

                            I've got it all apart right now. I'm putting a bigger cap bank on it. Putting bearings in my strut like the original had. Shortening the esc to motor wires (was actually little extensions with plus on each end...less plugs are better) and just going over the whole thing. I've got more passes on it than I kept track of so I'm just making sure everything is good on it. So...let's get back on track to that century mark shall we.....
                            Wow I just saw this glad your getting your speed back, did you mention 90 mph when I talked to you yesterday? anyway thanks for the mention & your M645 is on the way !! Dude do you ever slept ? LOL
                            Last edited by dasboata; 10-06-2014, 07:26 PM.

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                            • kfxguy
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 8746

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tlandauer
                              Travis, that REALLY looks good!
                              Thanks! Not bad for an assembly line lmao!
                              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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