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  • TheShaughnessy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Mar 2011
    • 1431

    #1

    Rc jet boat custom pump

    jet boat prop view.jpgjet boat layout 2.jpgjet boat steering nozzle.jpgjet boat intake 2.jpg

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    pic one is looking down the steering nozzle, I chose a 3 blade prop to do the work. Its set up with a traditional flex shaft and drive dog so other props can be experimented with. This one started out as a x437/3 that i turned down to fit.

    Pic two shows the internal layout. I was given a roll of carbon fiber from a customer who does composite work for a living. Since the 3 printing came out a little on the thin side I decided to just do a layup over the whole thing to strengthen the drive and to seal it up. It worked out well, it runs dry and that is all i could ask for.
    In case water does get inside the servo ( a Savox, will post model number later but it has 220 oz torque at .18 transit speed) will stay hi and dry, the mount was made using a piece of carbon plate i tried making my self and a couple trim tabs I had laying around to keep it from moving, a zip tie and velcro further aided securing it. Its seems a little janky but It's actually nice and solid and the velcro should absorb some vibrations.

    pic three shows the linkage for the steering nozzle. I cut off the tip of a Gatorade bottle and left some excess plastic, I heated it up with a heat gun and did my best to shape it to keep it from binding on the stator nozzle. The steering arm is a servo horn I had in a parts bin, i simply CA glued the snot out of it, so far it's holding just fine.

    pic 4 shows the intake, this is an area i feel can be improved on quite a bit. I didn't have any input on the design of it, this was just a test to see if it would even work, the design was borrowed from a 3d printing web site.
    Last edited by TheShaughnessy; 08-06-2014, 09:51 AM.
  • revoltrunner
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 646

    #2
    neat little boat.
    somehow the words harbor freight and carbon fiber
    just don't go together....lol

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    • tlandauer
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2011
      • 5666

      #3
      No more fear of turtles!
      Too many boats, not enough time...

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      • revoltrunner
        Senior Member
        • May 2014
        • 646

        #4
        Originally posted by tlandauer
        No more fear of turtles!
        wanna bet....lol
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        • tlandauer
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Apr 2011
          • 5666

          #5
          Too many boats, not enough time...

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          • sundog
            Platinum Card Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 878

            #6
            What jet drive are you using?
            Legend 36 sailboat, KMB Powerjet Ed Hardy Viper, ABC jet pwrd BBY Oval Master, ABC Hobby Jetski, NQD Tear Into's, HK Discovery 500, MickieBeez pwrd Jet Rigger!, Davette/Gravtix jet sprint, KMB Powerjet Pursuit, NQD pwrd Jet Catamaran!,Steam pwrd African Queen, Sidewinder airboat, Graupner Eco Power

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            • TheShaughnessy
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2011
              • 1431

              #7
              Originally posted by sundog
              What jet drive are you using?
              As title states it is custom. i know someone with a 3d printer and he made the intake and stator for me. he is supposed to be working on a nozzle for me but i made one out of a gotorade bottle temporarily. the design was taken from some site where Guys share stuff they have printed. he just scaled it to 30 mm. i turned down an octura prop. for it.

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              • TheShaughnessy
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Mar 2011
                • 1431

                #8
                more picsjet boat intake.jpgjet boat lay out.jpgesc layout.jpgesc layout 2.jpg

                pic one shows the bottom of the hull, Thinking about mods that would remedy the hop hop hop.

                pic two shows the interior layout again.

                pic 3 and 4 show the esc and how its mounted. The same carbon plate I used on the servo got used here to keep it up out of any sloshing water that may get in. velcro was used underneath to keep it from sliding and then a strap goes over it to keep it from breaking free in a crash.
                Last edited by TheShaughnessy; 08-05-2014, 08:36 PM.

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                • TheShaughnessy
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1431

                  #9
                  I've tried the batteries from front to back. All the way back the turning isn't as twitch and it doesn't seem to wan't to 180 as easily but the high end hops are real bad.

                  Mid way forward calms the hopping a bit but the turning becomes more twitch.

                  Move them all the way forward and the bouncing just about goes away but it spins out ridiculously easy.

                  trimming the thrust is possible but not easily so I'm gonna mess with cg and weight before going there.

                  I feel like one major issue is the steering nozzle, i mean its a Gatorade bottle. First issue is the diameter I just a little too big, but it was the closest thing I could scavenger from my garage. Second issue is the seal, or lack there of, In a straight line it actually doesn't leak back flow at all, however, If you turn to the right a spray of water goes forward to the left, hits the stern of the boat and almost certainly causes some lift. I think that is why it spins so easy, during a turn the transom is being lifted despite the suction from the intake. I'm hoping that after i get a nozzle printed up much of the back flow is eliminated and the handling improves. If not I'll work out a solution from there.

                  All in all I'm satisfied with the way the pump primes and the speed I'm getting. This is ultimately going to be a stream basher so top speed isn't as important as a shallow draft.

                  Sundog I was hoping you would see this and jump on board. I consider you a resident jet boat expert so you input is welcome.

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                  • flraptor07
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 2451

                    #10
                    This is one of the better performing home built jet boats I've seen, Maybe try some small turn fins and some real short trim tabs for turning stability and the hopping.

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                    • TheShaughnessy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1431

                      #11
                      i have considered fins and tabs. I would like to see if I can get it better without those things first though. Fins may mess with it's future as on object jumper.

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                      • sundog
                        Platinum Card Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 878

                        #12
                        I believe your problems all are all related to the steering nozzle. Use something with an inside diameter just a little larger than the stator housing, move it back towards the transom more and cut away the sides so it clears when turning (see my crude picture). This will stop the errant side spray and raise pressure (speed). Trim the nozzle downwards some by moving the bottom pivot towards the transom. That will keep eliminate the porpoising (that along with battery placement - COG). Finally, put the water inlet nipple on the stator housing instead of on the nozzle. Your stators are unusual, but seem to do the trick, so I wouldn't change them - just put the nipple between any two of them. I am impressed with the pump, it does a good job. I rarely have to resort to trim tabs, but if it is overpowered that may be your only remedy for hopping.
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                        Legend 36 sailboat, KMB Powerjet Ed Hardy Viper, ABC jet pwrd BBY Oval Master, ABC Hobby Jetski, NQD Tear Into's, HK Discovery 500, MickieBeez pwrd Jet Rigger!, Davette/Gravtix jet sprint, KMB Powerjet Pursuit, NQD pwrd Jet Catamaran!,Steam pwrd African Queen, Sidewinder airboat, Graupner Eco Power

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