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  • kfxguy
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2013
    • 8746
    #1

    Awesome hatch retention idea....

    I've been looking for the perfect (affordable) solution. I've always wanted to try riv-nuts in the hatch rail but cost was too high to try something and it not work. I was in harbor freight the other day (I know I know) and I came across a threaded insert tool kit (another name for riv-nut tool) and it was like 17 bucks with an assortment of threaded inserts. So I bought it. Decided to try it out tonight. I'm impressed! I think this is my new solution to screwing my thumb screws into. Very strong attachment to carbon. It's basically a threaded pop rivit (without the pop lol) for those not familiar. I just ordered a couple packs of 8-32 inserts as my kit only came with 10. I'll be posting a daytona build very shortly with these included in the hatch retention. Tell me what you think....



    Last edited by kfxguy; 07-01-2014, 10:58 PM.
    32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was
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    • Luck as a Constant
      Make Total Destroy
      • Mar 2014
      • 1952
      #2
      Yeah they use those threaded rivits to hold on jeep wrangle cladding. At least they used to. Good idea tho


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        • kfxguy
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2013
          • 8746
          #3
          I decided to do some more testing. Was afraid it might pull through the cf. I put a washer on tbe backside and man....that worked like a champ and it's plenty strong.



          Last edited by kfxguy; 07-01-2014, 10:59 PM.
          32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • flraptor07
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2013
              • 2451
              #4
              Do they look like these?

              DSC02525.jpgDSC02536.jpg The thumb screws are from a company called "Secraft" they got some really cool hardware!

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                • JimClark
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 5907
                  #5
                  you can get nylon thumbscrews from McMasterCarr.com
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                    • kfxguy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 8746
                      #6
                      Originally posted by JimClark
                      you can get nylon thumbscrews from McMasterCarr.com
                      I use anodized black aluminum ones. Like this with flat rubber washers

                      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                        • gsbuickman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1292
                          #7
                          Nice Kevin, I've seen a few versions of these. I've been using skateboard rail hardware like these since junior high. Sk8 rail hardware has 2 ferrules on them that cut grooves as their pushed into place, keeping them from spinning & locking them in place.

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                            • kfxguy
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 8746
                              #8
                              Originally posted by gsbuickman
                              Nice Kevin, I've seen a few versions of these. I've been using skateboard rail hardware like these since junior high. Sk8 rail hardware has 2 ferrules on them that cut grooves as their pushed into place, keeping them from spinning & locking them in place.

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEAD-BOLTS-S...item2a3bcf5843
                              Who is kevin?

                              The thing about these is they go in the opposite way than the ones you posted in that link. So it sits flush. I just got an impulse 31 yesterday and I deleted the Crappy factory hatch lock and front pin and put this setup in it. Check it out....



                              32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                                • rearwheelin
                                  Fast Electric Addict!
                                  • Oct 2008
                                  • 1941
                                  #9
                                  I'm liking the way your thinking on these hatch locks but life can be much simpler

                                  Buy some Lexan from the Depo and glass it in ...


                                  I smashed the barbs in flat with a vise and then puttied them in...


                                  And , Bam / done
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                                    • kfxguy
                                      Fast Electric Addict!
                                      • Oct 2013
                                      • 8746
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by rearwheelin
                                      I'm liking the way your thinking on these hatch locks but life can be much simpler

                                      Buy some Lexan from the Depo and glass it in ...


                                      I smashed the barbs in flat with a vise and then puttied them in...


                                      And , Bam / done
                                      How would that be simpler? All I do is drill the holes and pop rivet the insert in. Your way you have to smash the barbs, cut the lexan, cut a slot (which in my mind weakens the hull right there) and then epoxy something in. Not sure how yours is simpler....lol. nice idea you have there too don't get me wrong. I was trying to find a super simple and reliable method that doesn't cost much to do. I've found it. I'll be applying this on every build from here on out.
                                      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                                        • rearwheelin
                                          Fast Electric Addict!
                                          • Oct 2008
                                          • 1941
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by kfxguy
                                          How would that be simpler? All I do is drill the holes and pop rivet the insert in. Your way you have to smash the barbs, cut the lexan, cut a slot (which in my mind weakens the hull right there) and then epoxy something in. Not sure how yours is simpler....lol. nice idea you have there too don't get me wrong. I was trying to find a super simple and reliable method that doesn't cost much to do. I've found it. I'll be applying this on every build from here on out.
                                          it's simpler to me ! Your way you have to buy more stuff from China
                                          "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
                                          --Albert Einstein

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                                            • urbs00007
                                              Senior Member
                                              • Jun 2011
                                              • 826
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by kfxguy
                                              I use anodized black aluminum ones. Like this with flat rubber washers

                                              where do you get the anodized thumbscrews?

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                                                • meangenesracing
                                                  Fast Electric Addict!
                                                  • Jun 2012
                                                  • 1158
                                                  #13
                                                  looks like a product lowes or home depot sells, found it the hardwhare section

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                                                    • kfxguy
                                                      Fast Electric Addict!
                                                      • Oct 2013
                                                      • 8746
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by urbs00007
                                                      where do you get the anodized thumbscrews?
                                                      Ebay
                                                      32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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                                                        • T.S.Davis
                                                          Fast Electric Addict!
                                                          • Oct 2009
                                                          • 6220
                                                          #15
                                                          Love this. Didn't know there was such thing as threaded rivets.
                                                          Noisy person

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