Substantial range issue with my spekky system......

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  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8011

    #16
    A transmitter with model memory is very nice to have - a transmitter for each model is not practical and resetting the same transmitter for different models sucks. Additional features like servo reversing and travel limits can be very helpful even to the novice. There are many "advanced" transmitters which have good value at a reasonable price. Just don't become enamored of the low price over reliability.




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    • Luck as a Constant
      Make Total Destroy
      • Mar 2014
      • 1952

      #17
      well lets see, the tactic has servo revering, trim, and steering rate. Now, I've had the fancy radios with all the telemetry and what not, and honestly, I've never needed or used any more than the 3 features on the tactic. i can see where multiple model memory comes in handy no doubt. Given that I've thinned my rc collection down to 1 boat a basic two channel works perfect.
      my point was, whats wrong with 2 channels and basic controls?
      There's a hole at the center of earth where the rest of the world sinks but i stand still...

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      • NativePaul
        Greased Weasel
        • Feb 2008
        • 2760

        #18
        If it does all you want it to do, and has all the range you need from it, it is the perfect radio.

        I bought my first computer radio in 2001 and I ran dumb radios for many years previously so I know it is possible to set up all your models with the controls going the right way and the right throws just with linkages, but it is really nice having model memory which gives you the freedom to put the servos where you want them, EPA means you can fine tune on the fly rather than making a new servo arm with a hole close to where an existing hole was, exponential is very nice too and can't be done with linkages if you want to turn both ways, A timer is very nice too, I used to servo tape a cheap watch to my TX but now I have a timer built in (I still forget it half the time but some sets cam be programmed to start it automatically the first time you throttle over a set level (which I REALLY want)). Then there are things I don't need in a race boat but are nice to have on the radio for sport boats or scale boats, like more channels for lights, bow thrusters, sounds, etc, mixing is great for twins not only tank steering for scales but throttling back the inside motor a bit in turns to keep current draw even for fast stuff. If you have cars or planes you may want features for those too, I have all the memories on my boat TX full so use a different radio for my cars and another different one for my planes, but when I upgrade my boat set I will probably consolidate to some extent.

        I don't NEED any of the features on a computer radio, but you couldn't pay me enough to go back to dumb ones.
        Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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        • gsbuickman
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jul 2011
          • 1292

          #19
          Exactly Paul,this is why I wanted the Airtronics m11 In the first place. Its a 4 channel 30 model memory, fully programmable mixers, expos, EPA's, timers, adjustable color backlighting that you can clearly see during the day unlike my fs-gt3c pos I had, & any other bell and whistle you could possibly dream of. unfortunately the damn thing hasn't learned how to make my coffee for me yet. I also thought fully adjustable trim tabs on the fly would be cool since it has programmable mixers too..... After all, its a $400 radio.

          I put the system up for sale a bit ago for $240 shipped, if anything maybe I can keep it & get a dsm2 module for It that'll bind Mr Rx's ?.

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          • kfxguy
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 8746

            #20
            Get a dx3s or a dx4s. The dx4s lights up (I like lights lol) and it has a model memory that's switch on the fly with no rebinding. The dx3s you have to rebind (my son told me he has to every time he switches to a different receiver...my dx4s you select the model and go), but it will remember your settings for each model. Well worth the money. Btw, i had a m11 and I hated it. Why? 8 aaa batts instead of 4. Big and clunky. Looks outdated. I had mine on a nitro car and it became the unbind a couple times and the car took off. Had it happen to another guy at the track who told me I was full of it a few days before. His car was going down the straight...and kept going. Never seen an RC car jump so far lol. After that, I got rid of that thing and got the dx3s and never looked back. When the dx4s came out I got it and passed the dx3s to my son. Very very solid and reliable systems (except for their "water resistant" Mr200 lol)
            32" carbon rivercat single 4s 102mph, 27” mini Rivercat 92mph, kbb34 91mph, jessej micro cat(too fast) was

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            • tlandauer
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2011
              • 5666

              #21
              Now for a good laugh

              This has been a fantastic thread as far as I am concerned, I have also learn many new things.
              At the end of a day, everyone needs a good laugh, so here it is:
              You say multi model capability?
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              Did you say model name memories?
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              Computerized ( nah) channel settings?
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              NEVER HAD RANGE ISSUES!
              There are more boats on another Spektrum DX3E
              All Marine receivers ( MR3000 and MR200) with the exception of Tactic system.
              Too many boats, not enough time...

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              • rdcracer
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 306

                #22
                I am going to try the same radio. I have the boat set up now with a DX3S with a 3000 receiver amd worked well in my backyard pond. I have a marine servo but cant get it to bind to the DX3S. Any suggestions. You can keep the dumb radios. After you learn to use the features of the computer radios ya cant live without them. The M-11 even has anti lock brakes. A must on a 100 ' straight in an 1/8 scale car.
                Blackjack 29. Deltaforce 33. Cheetah twin, Insane FE30
                1/10 1970 PaynPak, Aeromarine Jersey Skiff

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                • BILL OXIDEAN
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1494

                  #23
                  You're getting some good advice on this thread, but I'm very familiar with both systems as I used to race for Spektrum, and used that module, and race for Airtronics now.
                  When I had the M11 I used our module which will allow you to use Fhss-2 based marine receivers from Airtronics. Your system will be matched, and work quite well..
                  M11 is a great radio.
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                  • rdcracer
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 306

                    #24
                    Do you have a model number for a marine receiver that will match the M-11 with this Spectrum module. I really love the M-11 for my cars and would like to use it with my race boats also.
                    Blackjack 29. Deltaforce 33. Cheetah twin, Insane FE30
                    1/10 1970 PaynPak, Aeromarine Jersey Skiff

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                    • rickwess
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 777

                      #25
                      Originally posted by kfxguy
                      The dx3s you have to rebind (my son told me he has to every time he switches to a different receiver...
                      I have 3 boats and 2 cars on my DX3S and never have to re-bind.

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                      • BILL OXIDEAN
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1494

                        #26
                        The Air tropics module won't acomadate the spectrum rcvrs. If you use the Air tropics module I'm recommending, you will be bound to using airtronics fhss2 receivers and your system will be matched with no range issues..

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                        • gsbuickman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1292

                          #27
                          Thanks guys

                          The m11 is a great radio & I like it a lot. The module & recievers are a matched pro series set too,. Maybe it has something to do with the cf in the hull of my Aeromarine, idk ?. However I just made these runs with my Traxxas Villain on 4s, with the m11 w/o a problem ?....



                          Last edited by gsbuickman; 06-03-2014, 08:58 PM.

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                          • BILL OXIDEAN
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1494

                            #28
                            Sometimes the ESC can have an issue with its BEC voltage which will affect range every time..

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                            • CKoz
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 25

                              #29
                              Please, for the ignorant people like myself- what exactly is different about a marine receiver? If these have better reception that standard car receivers, then why doesn't Spektrum roll those features over to the whole product line?
                              What my wife doesn't know won't hurt me.... yet.

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                              • meangenesracing
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 1160

                                #30
                                bill, can you please explain? is there interference to the radio signal from using a bec to power the receiver because i have the same range issue with my futaba running my cf aeromarine cat, but i also had the rec. antenna inside the boat. i have a cc 10 amp bec

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