PRE-Waterproofed ESC options?

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  • ls1fst98
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 859

    #16
    The esc itself may be water proof but all those high amp connections are not, and if it shorts its toast. And your boat should never have enough water to submerge an esc. You have bigger problems to address then. The boat needs to be water tight. Or as closes as humanly possible. This is why you are popping esc's. Like I said, yhe esc can be waterproof but if you are submerging it then now your connectors can allow a short. Fix the leak before you out another esc in and toast it as well and blame an esc.
    HPR 135 redemption, HPR C5009, modded zelos 36, 32 boats and counting.
    Flier ESC dealer, pm me for details.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/EliteRCBoats/

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    • shartinspartin
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 257

      #17
      you sold a fried esc? glad i didnt buy it

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      • shartinspartin
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 257

        #18
        Also 1 time i had a t 180 smoke. Oddly enough it still works... Can someone please explain that?

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        • ls1fst98
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 859

          #19
          Originally posted by shartinspartin
          Also 1 time i had a t 180 smoke. Oddly enough it still works... Can someone please explain that?
          luck???
          HPR 135 redemption, HPR C5009, modded zelos 36, 32 boats and counting.
          Flier ESC dealer, pm me for details.
          https://www.facebook.com/groups/EliteRCBoats/

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          • Spartanator
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2013
            • 1060

            #20
            It is taped, sealed, and almost water tight. It's when the boat just happens to flip and sit for a while not blowing back to shore... The VXL-6s was melted but he did not care, guess he wanted it fixed under warranty.... (shartinspartan, the sell occurred after I had the connectors redone. I don't want to be known as an a$$ that lies about broken products to gain $)
            I do realize that to completely waterproof something is impossible, I even had covered it in plastidip.... Also I do understand that 22 volts is a lot for "toys" but ya know... I do not submarine my ESCs, if it happens to flip and I don't get out there quick enough (30 minutes) then it has the buoy effect.... And that is how I killed 2 SK180s, the first VXL-6s was a smoke show and I paid $90 for Traxxas to send me back a mis-soldered one(reason why it had a meltdown)... And shartinspartan, I would call that some luck! I may add that the ESC had not even been to full throttle yet.

            Don't take this the wrong way guys but I created this thread for me (and others) to gain insight on which reliable ESC options there are besides the SK/T-180V2. I am not a 5 year old that can't comprehend that water and electric don't mix well....

            Guys, I can also blame the ESC if I want---it's mine, the Seaking company advertises the whole ESC is water proof. I don't want that to be taken the wrong way either.... I have been taping the hatch since I first got off ni-mh...
            Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
            32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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            • Spartanator
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Oct 2013
              • 1060

              #21
              Originally posted by boredom.is.me
              This scares me since I will be putting 5800mAh 6s2p in a Daytona/Genesis with a TM180 (same as SK180) with what will hopefully be a 4082 1600kv.
              Don't let it scare you.... As long as it stays 100% dry it "should" be fine... Also don't get to "proppy"
              Last edited by Spartanator; 04-14-2014, 09:10 PM.
              Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
              32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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              • Spartanator
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2013
                • 1060

                #22
                Well I think I have decided that if the ESC comes back under warranty I will keep it and strictly run 4s and 5s. For where I will be running most of the times I won't use the 6s+ (yes I thought about 8s, thought again REAL quickly lol). We have a section of the lake where people tie up the 1:1's together and party down so this will be my crowd pleaser before the area gets to crowded (get's annoying trying to get to the Formula 1:1 section with a 100+ boats around), not a crowd amazer... I might just run two 4s packs in parralell so I can get some good time above 5 minutes. I will be mostly using it when we are out on the 1:1 this year. Then again if it does not validate for warranty then I will power up to an 8s ESC!

                Sometimes I regret buying this boat, but then again it was my first "no-walmart/Radioshack toy".... Maybe, maybe not!
                Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                • ls1fst98
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 859

                  #23
                  The 6s isn't the issue so don't be affraid to use it. Id still figure a faster way of retrieval or better sealing before puting the esc back in. Just me .02
                  HPR 135 redemption, HPR C5009, modded zelos 36, 32 boats and counting.
                  Flier ESC dealer, pm me for details.
                  https://www.facebook.com/groups/EliteRCBoats/

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                  • Rumdog
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6453

                    #24
                    You dont have to listen to us. Your choice. Just know that if you continue to submerge your gear, you WILL continue to have failures. No matter what gear you run.

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                    • Fella1340
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2013
                      • 1035

                      #25
                      It's more than bad luck or a bad esc(s) causing your problems. Call it whatever you want bud, your doing something wrong. If you posted some pictures of your setup it may show a problem your not seeing. I have my doubts that running a lower voltage will solve your problem, hundreds of people are running that esc a lot harder with no issue.

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                      • Fella1340
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2013
                        • 1035

                        #26
                        You can try the swordfish 220 pro plus. 2-6s. It's a nice esc with data logging for $130 for sale here at OSE. It will run 6s all day on a proper setup. I have 2 of them.

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                        • ls1fst98
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 859

                          #27
                          I wouldn't put a fully waterproofed castle hv in a boat that wasn't sealed properly, so why would you trust a cheaper turnigy/hk one?
                          HPR 135 redemption, HPR C5009, modded zelos 36, 32 boats and counting.
                          Flier ESC dealer, pm me for details.
                          https://www.facebook.com/groups/EliteRCBoats/

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                          • Spartanator
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 1060

                            #28
                            I appreciate the 2 cents, I know some of you probably think I have unrealistic expectations for the ESCs. The boat is pretty sealed, and as mentioned above I did wait a while before it got back to shore. Is it the ESCs fault is was submerged? No. Is the ESC claimed waterproof? Yes.
                            I understand 6s is not the issue but where I will be running come 1:1 boating season I don't need a boat with wings.



                            One the requested subject:
                            Yes, I have looked at that ESC and I am considering it. Also looking at the higher amp Swordfish line. It depends on what the RMA department says....
                            I would not even be looking at the data log unless someone requested me to on the forums so that feature is not mandatory...lol

                            Looks like OSE just closed up shop for a few days.... Hopefully they are refilling products!
                            Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                            32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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                            • Fella1340
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2013
                              • 1035

                              #29
                              I missed you mentioning reverse. Using reverse with a flex shaft is a bad idea. They are designed to spin one way and will unwind spinning backwards likely loading the system. Going into reverse even by accident at any speed could cause huge amp spikes and be may be a big part of the problem. FE boats and reverse don't mix, unless you use solid shafts/ universal joints which isn't practical with your boat.
                              You keep mentioning your waterproof esc. Any of you connections external of the esc are NOT waterproof and just a little water can cause a short. Ditching a reverse on the esc programming is a must.

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                              • Spartanator
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1060

                                #30
                                That is a good point. I only use reverse when at close range trying to dock or if I am about to float into something while it is just hangin' there for a minute while I start the timer. I want to run a wire drive from Jeff but I am not sure if the collet/coupler will fit the space between the brass tubing and motor shaft. Guess I will just order and see one OSE gets back from vacation!
                                Why are you bothering me? I want to see your boat!
                                32" CF Rivercat--- built by "kfxguy" (SOLD)

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