What does everyone think of the Kintec Racing Mean Machines

[mitchesx]

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[tlandauer]

The Mean Machine hull is a very forgiving cat, I built my own with a Neu 1515 1y, I love it.
Are you eyeing the RTR or the hull with harware only? From the picture I see I am liking what Jan has done, and the time that goes into one of these I think the price is reasonable.
Simply put, if the hull is set up well ( as in the picture). there is minimum fuss running these .

[mitchesx]

That's what I was trying to figure out. Is the power plant setup good, or should I put something different in it? I am still getting used to the motor classifications and the speed controllers, and when/how to use a cap bank, etc... I want something fairly fast, with little fuss. I know the Aeromarine hulls are decent for the most part. I've owned quite a few.

[tlandauer]

The motor is fine, and the Seaking 180 ESC is what I and a few others have used in this hull. Please keep in mind that the Neu 1515, 1y ( 2200 kv) is a more efficient motor than the Leopard 4074 and has been run with 5s in this hull, although I haven't done it. That is fast with that cell count.
I would not attempt to run 5s with the Leopard 4074, 2200kv motor.
M445 prop is a good start.
If you want to put something different in it, I will go for the hull with hardware only, and drop in a Neu 1515 1y. Yes, the motor is more expensive, but worth every penny.IMO.

[tlandauer]

I am bringing up the Neu motor ONLY BECAUSE that is the motor I used in this hull and my experience is limited to this particular set up. I have other boats that use various Leopard motors and they all work fine for the sport boating. Please do not take it wrong as i don't want to convey the wrong message that only a Neu motor would work in the MM.
Cheers,
Tim

[mitchesx]

If I bought the Neu 1515 1y, should I stick with the Seaking 180? Where would it run with the 4s and 4074? I'm sure 6s would be overkill on this boat, right? I'm not racing, just running around going fast.

[tlandauer]

Yes, the Seaking 180 would work with the neu 1515.
For 6s , you need to lower the kv rating. 6s with 2200kv =
If you want to get the RTR, I suggest you run that with the Leopard 4074/2200kv motor until you are ready to up grade to another motor. it doesn't make sense to me if you buy that configuration and immediately change to another motor, again, just my $.02.

[bandanabob]

I have one of Jan's RTR MM and I love it . Very fast and corners great . If you want it stupid fast put a 4074 1600kv on 6s in it . If that's what you want e-mail him and ask him to swap motors. I'm sure he'll work with you.
Where are you in Pa.?

[mitchesx]

I'm out near Valley Forge, about 20 miles NW of Philly. I think I will get the RTR and upgrade later. If I upgrade the motor and run 4s will it kill anything? I'm still learning but, I think what Tim said and reading your post about 1600kv has made more sense than you would think.

I have one of Jan's RTR MM and I love it . Very fast and corners great . If you want it stupid fast put a 4074 1600kv on 6s in it . If that's what you want e-mail him and ask him to swap motors. I'm sure he'll work with you.
Where are you in Pa.?

[lenny]

I think you could go with a 1800kv motor and run it on 4s,5s,and 6s for speed runs.
What boats do you have now and what S cells do you have on hand now ?

[mitchesx]

I have one 4s outboard, that I just bought, am having Tony (propperchopper) build me an FE30, a 1/8 scale that I will eventually complete, and I just received my ML Boatworks GP400 kit. I ran gas up until this year, and am switching to FE. I have some 4s cells, and will be looking for more.

I think you could go with a 1800kv motor and run it on 4s,5s,and 6s for speed runs.
What boats do you have now and what S cells do you have on hand now ?

[tlandauer]

Seems like you are getting some fantastic boats for your fleet, the FE 30 Tony is building for you should be a blast to run , the 1/8 kit and the ML kit are also great choices.
IMO, the MM is more comfortable as a 4s boat, the Avenger, which is 36" long, would be more at home with 6s. I like to run parallel (4s2p) for sport boating and there is no way you can fit two 6s batteries in the hull. The run time would be on the short side if you run 2x3s and it is tough on the batteries as well.

[kenrid]

Does anyone have a video of a Mean Machine running at speed? I had a Proboat Blackjack 29 which WAS a great RTR tunnel, just grease the shaft, charge and sail, but for some stupid reason I ran it one day in November without taping down the hatch and it flipped over and sank! By the time the rescue dingy got out there it was a 'no trace'. Incidentally, Properchopper built me a FE 30 about 6 months ago and it is the best boat in my fleet -and it is fast and stable. I am also building a GP400 V2, almost complete - about to fit motor and hardware.

[mitchesx]

Thanks guys! Looks like I'm on the right track. Will 4s2p in parallel give me perfomance as good as 2s packs run in series? Like I said, I want to go fast, but I want more than a 2 minute run time! I'm figuring that I'm going to get about 4 - 5 minutes with the choices I've made so far. The FE30 and the outboard will be a single 4s pack, the GP400 V2 will be 6s2p (I think), and I forgot to mention that I am going to build a skiff following Propperchopper's lead. I have a gas one and they are fun boats! That will be 4s2p in parallel as well. As you can see, I'm trying to stay with a lot of the same battery packs and configs here.

[tlandauer]

Yes, 4s2p will be giving you run time in the ranges you are looking for. A Leopard 4074/2200kv can be run on 4s1p, but run time won't be long and batteries will be working very hard. Your plans sound so exciting and I have seen Tony's Skiff, man, I envy you!
Cheers!