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  • high-tech
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 331

    #1

    OCTURA Expensive Collet w brass insert Questions

    I can't seem to get this collet to release my flex cable, I bought an extra brass insert and tried it and still messes my cable up every time.

    Is there some kind of magic or tricks or...

    I love specific and good info. I'm dumb as a box of rocks and can't read between the lines or guess what someone left out. I'm sorry If I ramble but I'm frustrated. I've gone through 3 cables and the next one is gonna get the whole thing bounced off the wall and away we go...
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  • martin
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2010
    • 2887

    #2
    Most that I know use 2 piece collet couplings because of the problems you get with the 3 piece brass insert type not releasing, personally I hate them.

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    • properchopper
      • Apr 2007
      • 6968

      #3
      Had the same frustration with the 3-piece collet. The Octure two-piece has served me well but eventually gets tight. I've tried these and so far I like them a bunch : http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...prod=ose-81518

      A good idea to eliminate "false tights" and provide smooth torque-feedback while tightening is to put some anti-seize (auto parts store) on the threads (threads only)
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      • high-tech
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 331

        #4
        Thanks for the feedback guys, I cooled off a little and found a way... Spin the nut off and grab the insert with needle nose and give it a little side to side motion and out it comes. seems like a lot to cope with but it works so far
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        • martin
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2010
          • 2887

          #5
          As properchopper points out I also always use Permatex Anti seize lube on the threads on 2 piece couplings, as he says you don't suddenly reach that metal to metal tight spot when tightening the nut. They also undo much better with anti seize on the threads.

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          • grsboats
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 975

            #6
            Horracing has good ones but personally MBP are my favorites...no way to use other than that.Gill
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            • martin
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2010
              • 2887

              #7
              MBP run nice & true compared with most other couplings that can be a bit hit or miss.

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              • high-tech
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 331

                #8
                What is MBP? I finally figured out how to get my pic on my post
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                • martin
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2887

                  #9
                  MBP are couplings made in Germany & sold in the US from Rocket City Racing, their quite expensive at around $33 but are probably the best couplings around. They run so true it puts other couplings to shame (at SAW rpm over 50,000rpm it makes a big difference to vibrations where they run so true), they don't use grub screws tightening onto a flat on the motor shaft which pushes other couplings to one side.

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                  • properchopper
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6968

                    #10
                    Originally posted by high-tech
                    What is MBP? I finally figured out how to get my pic on my post
                    Sprechen Sie Deutsch ? : http://mbp-rc.de/
                    2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                    2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                    '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                    • TheShaughnessy
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1431

                      #11
                      I want to add my name to the list of frustrated three piece couplers users. A second hand Pursuit I picked up came with one and it was always difficult to get the shaft loose. At the moment I can't get the brass insert loose at all. I haven't had a problem with the two piece designs, but I'm not spinning 40,000 + rpm.

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                      • drwayne
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2008
                        • 2981

                        #12
                        needle nose pliers were the only way i could separate the brass from coupler..
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                        • 785boats
                          Wet Track Racing
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3169

                          #13
                          I just put a small flat blade screwdriver in the slot pointing down along the flex shaft & give the handle a little tap with a pair of pliers, a small hammer, or a 9/16" spanner. What ever comes to hand. It always pops right out.

                          Then remove collet & replace with a real one.

                          There are two types of these 3 piece collets that I've come across. The 'Aeromarine' which has the grub screw entering on the point of the hex section, & 'some other' brand that has the grub screw entering on the flat part of the hex section.
                          The Aeromarine type are easy to remove without hitting. Just put a small screw driver blade in the slot & lightly twist as if doing up a screw. The guys with them at our club do that & the brass bit pops out. I don't have any of that type.
                          It's the 'other' type that I have, & needs the persuasive little TAP.
                          See the danger. THEN DO IT ANYWAY!!!
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                          • properchopper
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6968

                            #14
                            It might just be possible [Speculation Alert : Ignore if you choose] that the three-piece design requires less tightening torque to get a good grip. If it gets cranked on with as much muscle as a two piece design it get stuck. That being said I decline to test this hypothesis as I have already fulfilled my quota of driveshaft/props to the lake bottom.
                            2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                            2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                            '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                            • longballlumber
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 3132

                              #15
                              Originally posted by properchopper
                              It might just be possible [Speculation Alert : Ignore if you choose] that the three-piece design requires less tightening torque to get a good grip. If it gets cranked on with as much muscle as a two piece design it get stuck. That being said I decline to test this hypothesis as I have already fulfilled my quota of driveshaft/props to the lake bottom.
                              I believe this response has some merit! I too agree that each design requires MUCH different wrench torque to be effective.

                              Later
                              Mike

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