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  • Tyneside
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 7

    #1

    Octura Collet 5mm x .078

    does anyone know the allen key size used to fasten this collet to the motor shaft,
  • properchopper
    • Apr 2007
    • 6968

    #2
    Good question ! I tried every possible allen key I have. The ONLY one that fits (the one in the collet with blue tape on it) isn't size-marked. I got it years ago from Ray Fuller during a race in Arizona.

    Jeff Wohlt [ rcraceboat.com] should be able to help ; I tried

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    • martin
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Aug 2010
      • 2887

      #3
      The correct size Allen key is 5/64", a 2mm will also fit. Both these size keys give no slop so they wont slip & round out the hex.

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      • martin
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2010
        • 2887

        #4
        You also need to purchase good quality allen keys, cheapo Chinese in my experience often are undersized & are not a nice fit in the hex.

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        • Tyneside
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 7

          #5
          I tried 2mm and 5/64 both are to big 1.5 mm and 1/16 are too small its almost like I need a 1.75mm but I have no idea were to find one

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          • properchopper
            • Apr 2007
            • 6968

            #6
            Originally posted by martin
            The correct size Allen key is 5/64", a 2mm will also fit. Both these size keys give no slop so they wont slip & round out the hex.
            The 2mm and the 5/64 didn't fit at all. Only my "mystery wrench" fits my smaller Octura collets. The .187 collets use the bigger size (2mm or 5/64)

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            • martin
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Aug 2010
              • 2887

              #7
              Yes Tony mine are 5mm x .187", I wrongly assumed they would be the same size screws.

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              • martin
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Aug 2010
                • 2887

                #8
                Tony on the 5mm x .150" couplings that I have it has smaller screws so are probably the same screws. I have several 1/16" keys that are probably Chinese & slip in the hex (new keys & new coupling) they measure .0585", I had to buy a good quality 1/16" for this specific purpose which is .0625" so only 4 thou larger but is a perfect fit with no slip.

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                • properchopper
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6968

                  #9
                  Good info Martin I'll go get a good 1/16 to be a backup for my current one. I've lived in fear of losing it (hence the blue tape). I do run several Ltd. motors with the .150 collets that take the smaller size.
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                  • martin
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2887

                    #10
                    Tony I always take a vernier or micrometer with me when im looking for a specific size key as in the case of coupling screws which tend to be very tight indeed. Ive bought to many just on size alone & most have been under sized by a few thou rendering them useless for couplings etc, a lot of the cheap keys also don't have nice sharp tips at the on the hex. I also find grinding the end of the key back giving it a nice square shoulder at the tip also helps giving the key a better fit in the hex as some keys arnt square at the tip where during manufacture the hex bar is just chopped to length before bending. this messes the end of the hex up, & with these very small screws can tribute to the key slipping easier.

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                    • Tyneside
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 7

                      #11
                      I think il take the screw to the hardware store and see if I can find a 1/16 to fit, thanks for the info

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                      • properchopper
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6968

                        #12
                        Yup, I'll grind the tips on my face grinder when they start to round off

                        Originally posted by martin
                        Tony I always take a vernier or micrometer with me when im looking for a specific size key as in the case of coupling screws which tend to be very tight indeed. Ive bought to many just on size alone & most have been under sized by a few thou rendering them useless for couplings etc, a lot of the cheap keys also don't have nice sharp tips at the on the hex. I also find grinding the end of the key back giving it a nice square shoulder at the tip also helps giving the key a better fit in the hex as some keys arnt square at the tip where during manufacture the hex bar is just chopped to length before bending. this messes the end of the hex up, & with these very small screws can tribute to the key slipping easier.
                        2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                        2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                        '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                        • properchopper
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 6968

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tyneside
                          I think il take the screw to the hardware store and see if I can find a 1/16 to fit, thanks for the info
                          Pkg of 10 for $1.83

                          2008 NAMBA P-Mono & P-Offshore Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder; '15 P-Cat, P-Ltd Cat 2-Lap
                          2009/2010 NAMBA P-Sport Hydro Nat'l 2-Lap Record Holder, '13 SCSTA P-Ltd Cat High Points
                          '11 NAMBA [P-Ltd] : Mono, Offshore, OPC, Sport Hydro; '06 LSO, '12,'13,'14 P Ltd Cat /Mono

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                          • martin
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2887

                            #14
                            If your favourite & only key starts to show some wear through use just grind the key back a bit say 3/32" & hey presto you have a brand new key.

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                            • martin
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2887

                              #15
                              Id be wary on the quality of those keys at $1.83 for 10, I payed that for 1 good quality key in the UK. They also say country of origin USA but in brackets country subject to change.

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