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  • Engelkefarm
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 131

    #1

    6cell or 8 cell with my set up

    I have sk180esc and turnagy 4084 1500kv in my genesis I have been running it with 2x 3 cell 5000 mah 35c venom. Timing on esc is 11.xx. I am getting about 40-45 mph speed and it seems like the motor is only running about half of its potential. It's just not screaming like it should. I have tried to recal the throttle a couple times with same results. Does the motor just want more amps possibly? I am nervous to try 8 cell on the sk. I am thinking just ordering a leopard is my cheapest solution to get it moving a little faster. Any advice would be great.
  • Brushless55
    Creator
    • Oct 2008
    • 9488

    #2
    I would stick with 6s on that KV
    what prop are you running?
    and welcome to OSE !
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    • blowNover
      Flounder
      • Nov 2012
      • 189

      #3
      I don't know about anyone else but I can tell you first hand my sk180 didn't like me adding cells beyond 6s.

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      • Brushless55
        Creator
        • Oct 2008
        • 9488

        #4
        yeah didn't think of that one
        .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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        • martin
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Aug 2010
          • 2887

          #5
          The SK 180 is a 6s esc (that's why the specs say 6s), I know a few have pushed to 7s. That also is not an 8s motor @ over 44000rpm unloaded, you need to look at problems with your boat set up as you should be seeing a lot more than 40-45mph.

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          • Engelkefarm
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 131

            #6
            I have a x442 it takes off with that. And also a grim racer l45x68 takes a second to plain but then takes off and I get a better top end. Honestly I think it is the motor the 3 wires coming off are real thin and I think they are restricting the current flow. All other wires are 10awg it is riding perfect in the water nice and flat. Anyone have experience with the aqua star 4084? I will post some pics if someone will explain how

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            • Rumdog
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Mar 2009
              • 6453

              #7
              No, it isn't the motor at all... Its the tiny prop!

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              • Engelkefarm
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 131

                #8
                As I stated in post above I have two props a 42 and a 45. Anything larger than the 45 would take to long to plain out. And I doubt I would get 10+mph out of a little larger prop. Also if the prop was way too small motor would just be over reving and that's my problem I feel like its not maxing out at wot. If I were to take a guess I would say its spinning at about 3/4 rpm And every connection has a 5.5 bullet. Just got nano tech 5000 mah 65-130 c. They seem to give me like 2-3 mph possibly. And just to leave the bs out of it I work on tractors cars trucks real boats you name it. It's just the electricity part that has me thrown off

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                • Rumdog
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 6453

                  #9
                  A larger prop will plane faster. It has to be the correct prop though. And yes, you can easily gain 10 mph with a prop change. Think of it this way.. you have all that motor, right? Now consider that an Aquacraft ul-1 motor can easily turn that prop. That motor isn't even breaking a sweat, therefore, it's not really making any power.

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                  • Engelkefarm
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 131

                    #10
                    A larger prop will not plane faster if you do not have the power torque. A motor will run hot if its either not enough strain or too much. Now I am not sure of the pitch on the grim racer. A electric boat should not take very long to plane out. I have the strut up as high as it will go and flat on the table

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                    • Engelkefarm
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 131

                      #11
                      Well what prop do you suggest we will start process of elimination. Don't get me wrong it's fast but I feel like it should be running faster

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                      • Peter A
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1486

                        #12
                        Are you guessing the speed and rpm? About xx speed is not the same as measuring it to be fair. Also with that setup you could run a like x447/3 without heating issues. A small prop won't sound like it's revving, try a bigger prop.
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                        • Engelkefarm
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 131

                          #13
                          I GPS the speed 39.7 mph on the x442 did not GPS other prop. But if it is taking long to plane on a 2 blade 45 why would I run a 3 blade 47? It would just take even longer to plane. Is it normal to take 2-3 seconds to plane out? Do the larger motors just take a minute to get rpms up compared to a smaller higher kv motor? I just don't want to be wasting money on props that are too big or too small.

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                          • Engelkefarm
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 131

                            #14
                            It basically dose not have the snap off the line with bigger prop that I had expected. I believe the motor will have no issue turning the larger props but at the expense of the low end. The grim racer prop is a lifter prop by the way.

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                            • madmikepags
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1359

                              #15
                              I think I might have figured out the problem according to the HK site I can not find a 4084 with a 1500kv the one listed is a 1050KV that would make a WHOLE LOTTA difference. Instead of turning 33,000rpm like you think you are, you are actually only turning 23,000!!!!!
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