TP Power TP4050 5D Pro 2600 Kv 4-pole on 6S

[Rocstar]

The world's fastest R/C boat was turning aroun 45,000 rpm when it set the 140 mph record. Only a couple passes and back to the beach. I do not believe that "people" are running this motor successfully on 6S for normal sport boating. What is most disturbing is that the OP comes to this site asking for help, he is given solid recommendations, then he questions everything. I suggest we let him learn on his own, he doesn't seem to need any help...he has "people" to advise him.

Not only recommendations, but "hands on experience" that was asked for. I sacrificed an ESC to test the capabilities of this exact motor for SAW use (even though I pretty much knew something bad would come of it).

[Mulisha]

The world's fastest R/C boat was turning aroun 45,000 rpm when it set the 140 mph record. Only a couple passes and back to the beach. I do not believe that "people" are running this motor successfully on 6S for normal sport boating. What is most disturbing is that the OP comes to this site asking for help, he is given solid recommendations, then he questions everything. I suggest we let him learn on his own, he doesn't seem to need any help...he has "people" to advise him.




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Agree I'm sure we will see him in the WTB section looking for another esc soon enough

[Skovene]

Hey, sorry i seem like an idiot to most of you!

Im new to boat´s but have run wild kv@V in cars and sometimes it´s been okay and sometimes i burnt motors and esc´s. I have just got recomended this motor from a fellow boater from denmark, and seen several treats her and vidoes on youtube of people running the 2350kv version on 6s and i did not read about any problems. I have seached the site but cant find the threat about it. But its from germany og switzerland

I did say in a earlyer post, that im sorry to doubt, but without peoples hands on experience with motor its hard to be sure its correct. And maybe i sound obnotious but english is not my first languages. Sorry. im just trying to get help and experience with this motor

[Alexgar]

I run a 2500 kv 450 size motor in a 17" cat on 4s and that's pushing it I wouldn't go over 4s on 2600 kv just my opinion. If I would have taken more advice in the beginning of my boating could have saved alot of $$$$

[Chrisg81983]

Op......2350 to 2600 on 6s is a very very big difference do the math. The tp 4050 2350kv and t-180 on 6s is a proven setup that works and when the motor is under load it works out to be less than the advertising kv by a significant amount. In the end its not a setup for a new boater all I can recommend is to take all the above advise. I run a lot of high rpm setups and there is not much room for error. Good luck

[Cooper]

Op there is no written guide book on this stuff but for a good common rule the rpm for a sport boat should stay below 35,000rpm. For fast boats up to 40,000rpm and all motors should stay below 60,000 (more like 50,000) I too like high rpm/smaller prop setups like chrisg. But those setups are being suggested to you as knowledgable setup for someone that has experience. I like to use the simple formula of kv of motor multiplied by battery 100%charge. (4.2 volts). So a motor with 2350kv run at 6s voltage will spin the motor with no load at 59,220rpm. Now when it's under load it will not reach that rpm. Some people go with 3.7 volts but I always go with 4.2 at it will give me the highest estimation. Now when your setups get into the extreme operating parameters of esc and motor then the chances of something failing increase tremendously. And a lot of times when a motor fails it takes the esc with it!! So all this is just some basic guide for enjoying the boats running verses enjoying the buy-it-now or get the credit card option. Everyone always wants to go fast right away, spend a little time figuring out how and why things work and applying it. It will allow you to save a lot f money to put towards bigger and better purchases rather than being frustrated because you have to buy another esc,motor, ect from bad advise from an ignorant erroneous source that has no backing or proof of said claims( with good results).

[properchopper]

Here we go again

[Chrisg81983]

Post 21 & 22 is all you need to know for now. There is much to learn before you run 50k rpm setups. You can not treat your boat setups like your Rc car setups. Water is brutal on electronics one wrong move and poof you will be very surprised how many amps or watts a setup can pull. Look at people's data logging files and you will get a better understandin, and If need be I can send u some

[Skovene]

Okay, i will either sell the motor or run it in 4s. Or get a 2350kv.

But what is consideret a small prop for this motor and hull? And i hve seached for cap mods on the t180 do any of you have abe links about that.

Thank you all for the input so far :)

[kevinpratt823]

Okay, i will either sell the motor or run it in 4s. Or get a 2350kv.

But what is consideret a small prop for this motor and hull? And i hve seached for cap mods on the t180 do any of you have abe links about that.


Thank you all for the input so far :)

Still, I would bet money that if you're going to run 6s on a motor that size(4082) with anything higher than 1600kv and no experience doing so, you WILL burn things up. It's just a matter of what goes first, the ESC, the motor(or both at once), or your batteries........If you're lucky, maybe your solder connections will let go before the others. But to each his own. FWIW I learn the hard way too.......I think you need to let go of the idea that higher kv/rpms means faster/more power.
Just like with cars and gearing, there is a sweet spot with RPM, and the same speed as a 45,000 rpm setup can be achieved with a 35,000 rpm setup swinging a bigger prop, and it won't be as likely to burn stuff up.
If you put a prop on that was small enough not to burn that setup on 6s, the boat would be A LOT slower than a 1600kv on 6s with a moderate (442-445) prop. Even the 445 on a cheap 1600kv/6s setup is pretty hot in my experience.
For reference, this is my 36" DF explorer, same category as your Genesis but wider, on a LEO 4082/1600kv with an aggressive prop(M645), and it pulls 200amps and I have gotten 69mph.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJDr69gcTmM

[Skovene]

I have know sold the motor.

What would you recomend for me, if i want to run my genesis well over 60mph