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  • DPeterson
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 842

    #1

    Tapping Aluminum

    Thread tapping experts please help.

    Spent 4 hours machining a special part out of normal 6061 aluminum bar stock. The part needed 4 holes with 4-40 threads. On my third hole I snapped the tap off. Part ruined. Happens to me all the time.

    Used a 4-40 Titanium Carbonitride Hss Sprial Point along with a number 43 drill bit as called for. I took my time. I tap in slow until I feel a little resistance and then I back it out and clean the tap. On the third hole I was almost all the way through but I felt a little resistance so I began to back it out. Well it snapped. (a lot of choice words came next)

    What am I doing wrong? Wrong taps? Thought I was using the right one or best one. Should I be using cutting oil? Is there a trick to this?

    Thanks for any advice. Doug
    Doug Peterson
    IMPBA 19993
    www.badgerboaters.com
  • JimClark
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 5907

    #2
    there is a special lubricant for tapping alum
    here is what I uesd when I used to make aluminum sailboat masts

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    • kendt
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 557

      #3
      Its been a while since my metal shop days. But I can offer a couple suggestions. I think lube is a must. Even though aluminum is relatively soft there is still a lot of friction and that is likely whats causing the breakage. Especially when you get the tap all the way in. Also if you don't get it started perfectly straight its going to break for sure. My personal way of starting is on a drill press that you know has been squared up. On smaller taps put turn the spindle by hand while putting just enough pressure on the down crank to help feed it in.Just far enough to get a good staright start then loosen the chuck and finish the normal way. If its a larger tap I start the drill press and when its spinning at speed shut it off and feed the tap in until it stops turning then loosen the chuck. And always lots of lube.

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      • blizard05
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 576

        #4
        WD 40 does a good job
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        • Basstronics
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jun 2008
          • 2345

          #5
          Tap magic for Aluminum.

          Period. Problem solved. Threads come out looking like chrome.

          Under $10 for a little bottle that will last a hobbyist a lifetime.



          Also I think you are using the wrong taps. Those are good for CNC but not so good for hand tapping. just a good #4-40 plug tap should do the trick perfectly. I have tapped many holes in my days. For a #2-56 all the way up to 2"+ in all sorts of materials. For aluminum there is no better than tap magic- period.

          Get the best deals for #4-40 Plug Tap at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!
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          • DPeterson
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 842

            #6
            Geez - Looks like I missed the boat a long time ago.

            I assumed soft metals didn't really need lube. Wished I had not been so shy about asking a few years back.

            I'll be buying new taps also.

            Thanks guy's. Doug
            Doug Peterson
            IMPBA 19993
            www.badgerboaters.com

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            • JimClark
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 5907

              #7
              also are you using a tap handel?
              "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
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              • Peter A
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2012
                • 1486

                #8
                Hi Doug, make sure your taps are sharp, as in new. Blunt taps will bind and snap easy, especially small ones. You could try a slightly bigger tapping hole also if you can get away with it. Lube oil definitely, wd40 as suggested works fine.
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                • T.S.Davis
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6220

                  #9
                  Bet I know what your making. You're welcome. haha

                  I use plane ole 3 in One oil.
                  Noisy person

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                  • photohoward1
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1610

                    #10
                    Nice soft cheese works perfectly too.

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                    • DPeterson
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 842

                      #11
                      Ya - I have a nice tap handle.

                      Interesting how even soft aluminum will dull the taps. I even changed taps before I broke what I thought was a new one.

                      Terry - I guess you should have patented your idea. Too late. I actually found a good method that uses off the shelf materials with about 30 minutes of assembly that I am going to pursue. I had lots of fun milling and machining my part, but way too time consuming compared to the other. Will be putting the unit through some testing this weekend.

                      Howard - That gives me an idea for a book. 101 ways to use cheese - not always for eating. I'll sign the first copy for you.

                      Thanks again guy's for the tapping instructions. Doug
                      Doug Peterson
                      IMPBA 19993
                      www.badgerboaters.com

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                      • T.S.Davis
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6220

                        #12
                        Just don't tell anyone what you're up to. We'll argue about it later I'm sure anyway.

                        I may have a contribution or 11 for your cheese book. I'm pretty creative with food.
                        Noisy person

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                        • egneg
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4670

                          #13
                          Originally posted by photohoward1
                          Nice soft cheese works perfectly too.
                          I believe cheese curds would be great for this!
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                          • PatrickM
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 151

                            #14
                            The softer the alloy the more likely it is to gall and bind. Wisconsin venison fat will work on all aluminum varieties....

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                            • viper1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 218

                              #15
                              Turps
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