stuffing tube EXPLOSION

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  • lv_reefer
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 33

    #1

    stuffing tube EXPLOSION

    First time poster here... Cant wait to here from you all.
    Back story: This was the maiden voyage of my DF 22 Vortex Hydro. It's running a 3655 motor and a 3517 cnc prop with a .130 flex it had teflon tube and I've ALWAYS since I've been boating used Grim Racer Speed Grease... This is my 6th boat and first 100% self built setup (I love this boat )

    Questions: Has ANYONE had this happen? What happened? How do I fix the brass stuffing tube? Should and how do I do away with the teflon tube?

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  • Basstronics
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jun 2008
    • 2345

    #2
    If you used JB Weld where it goes thru the hull its going to be a little more difficult (I use Epoxy here).

    I think your flex was to small. .150 would be the better choice. Judging by OSE's recommendations just replace that stuffing tube with the same size, up it to .150 cable and call it a day. If you want to get fancy order the next size brass tube and make it so the stuffing tube is easily replaced by epoxying in a short piece thru the hull.

    Suggested stuffing tube sizes when used "WITH NO" Teflon tubing:
    5/32" brass for .098 Flex Cable.
    3/16" brass for .130 Flex Cable.
    7/32" brass for .150 Flex Cable.
    1/4" brass for .187 Flex Cable.
    5/16" brass for .250 Flex Cable
    42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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    • kendt
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 557

      #3
      I had something like that happen. I had a collet on the shaft to keep it from falling out if the collet let go. It was off balance kjust enough to cause my shaft and tube to self destruct. If you cut your tube close to the hull with a dremel. You should be able to heat it with your soldering iron to soften the epoxy and yank it out.

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      • lv_reefer
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 33

        #4
        How fast does the flex shaft wear the stuffing tube? I know this is a heated debate but what grease are you other guys running with no teflon?

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        • lv_reefer
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 33

          #5
          Kendt that's a good idea with the soldering iron. Any thoughts on a repair rather than a replace?

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          • antslake
            RC nut
            • Nov 2010
            • 214

            #6
            Something could have been binding at the other end and put more stress on the flex, which made it knot up. Go heavier. Mine did that once, it was an awful smell....burning teflon.

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            • kendt
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 557

              #7
              Yes removing the teflon is just one less thing to go wrong. Go up to .187 and you'll never look back.

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              • longballlumber
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Apr 2007
                • 3132

                #8
                Sure looks like there is rust in the flex cable. Are you sure you were performing the proper maintenance?

                Later
                Mike

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                • lv_reefer
                  Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 33

                  #9
                  And by proper maintenance you mean? I grease it up for every run...

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                  • lv_reefer
                    Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 33

                    #10
                    antslake I didnt get much smell. I little smoke that left when the hatch opened but other than that nothing. Sounds like I need to up-size the shaft... Seems to be the concensus. The boat was out for a min or so at full tilt and and the motor and esc were 85deg f and 100 deg f. No indication of drag or friction. idk

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                    • longballlumber
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 3132

                      #11
                      interesting... Do you see the rust?

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                      • lv_reefer
                        Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 33

                        #12
                        Yes

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                        • Basstronics
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2345

                          #13
                          Before putting your boat away after the days worth of runs YOU MUST remove the flex, clean it, dry it and re grease it. This prevents the rust and makes the boat water ready for the next time.
                          42" Osprey, 32" Pursuit, 26" Bling Rocket (rescue), Blizzard Rigger, JAE 21FE rigger, Hobby King rigger (RIP)

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                          • keithbradley
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 3663

                            #14
                            Usually when they break there (and take part of the stuffing tube in the process) it's from cable whip. It could be caused by your stuffing tube support coming loose from the tube, having too much play, or the clearance between the stuffing tube and flex being too great (in your case possibly the teflon needed to be replaced). The only other thing I've seen do that is when the tube/flex is too tight and creates excessive drag/heat.
                            www.keithbradleyboats.com

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                            • iop65
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 367

                              #15
                              also :

                              the only bend in the stuffing tube i can see is right where your home-made support is , here you're going to get more heat then everywhere else

                              in the picture you can also see that the plastic has melted

                              i would put in an other stuffing tube and make a bend with a bigger radius and grease the flex more often like has been suggested

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