the cone of silence "setups"

[showstoppercat]

Just a general post - why are Europeans so secretive with there set ups? or it's like pulling teeth to get questions answered - some of these guys are the bees knees when it comes to RC - you'd think they would help newbies others to get the most out of the hobby

[Doby]

Hey, does KFC reveal their secrets?

It can be a very serious hobby over there and bragging rights are worth a lot.

Also, not every newbie should should have access to that knowledge.

Newbies need to have a learning curve in this hobby. Remember at the speeds a lot of people run, these boats are potential weapons and can damage and kill in the wrong hands.

Start with a SV, learn to drive, then move on to bigger/ faster things

[Fluid]

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[Raydee]

Its like everything else in life, I have been to RC car races where racers have their cars covered in the pits so nobody can copy their set ups. Some people don't take this as a "fun hobby" and aren't willing to share any info and others are basically afraid to speak because they are worried someone else will just shoot them down or flame them.

[andym]

Raydee please do not take this the wrong way , but I know of a few people who will not post on this site or RR because sometimes Americans seem to have a know all attitude, whether it is so or imagened. I must say not you though!! Have seen people from Europe and Australia post and although the questions are valid have no response till someone from Europe or Australia answers when we all know that 90% of participants are American. This is a observation and not designed to upset. Paddy I have tried to be diplomatic so do not stuff it up with your warped sense of Tasmania.

[DISAR]

Hi,

I am from Europe and particularly from Greece. I like electric boats and converted my nitro boats to electric. I knew nothing about electric boats but after reading the posts in this great forum I learned a lot. I shared my ideas and experience wherever I could. I do not think that only Europeans do not share but also Americans don't. It is just a matter of particular time and luck and if the other person is in the mood or has the time to answer.
Finally, I noticed that lately so many posts are coming up every day therefore if somebody does have a reply in his post in the first or second day then he will not get any simply because there will be so many new posts.
Once again thank you Americans (it is an American site) for creating this great site and serious forum.

[Xzessperated]

Raydee please do not take this the wrong way , but I know of a few people who will not post on this site or RR because sometimes Americans seem to have a know all attitude, whether it is so or imagened. I must say not you though!! Have seen people from Europe and Australia post and although the questions are valid have no response till someone from Europe or Australia answers when we all know that 90% of participants are American. This is a observation and not designed to upset. Paddy I have tried to be diplomatic so do not stuff it up with your warped sense of Tasmania.

Dear, oh dear, a warped sense of Tasmania Andy? Stuff it up Andy? Who me?
I am just going to

[video200]

as an european i also think that time zones come in play with this. when an american post a question most of the europeans are asleep and have already had a few ansers by the time we actually wakes up.

language skills can also be a problem. have seen in this forum before that people that dont speak english all that well are made fun of and probarly wil never come back to this forum becose of that.

personaly i had help on this forum from people from several different european countryes and americans alike so i guess im fortunate

[Doby]

Lets be honest folks, a few of the other forums contain some members that are less than pleasent with their replies to others concerns/ questions etc.

I do belong to 2 others and post on one occasionally. Otherwise I just surf them and its pathetic to read some of the coments posted.

OSE Forum, so far is a friendly, respectfull area for all to have some fun. Lets keep it that way.

[ED66677]

I like that one!!! 'cause I'm french!

Consider the fact you are 300 milion of citizen, how many are FE boat addict? 1 out of 100000?

Now consider France, let's say 1 out of 100000 out of 60 milion citizen that would be 600 FE boat addict in the country, how many out of those 600 can speak, read, or just understand half of what is being shared in this forum?

Not trying to laught at or blame anybody but... I am lucky, I love that language, I fall in when I've tryied to understand the darn OS35 glow engine english manual I had when I was 16, I work for an American company since '95, 've been around the word, mainly Europe, found a lot of difficulties to communicate 'cause not a lot of people speak a good technical english in Europe, on top of that you add those acronyms you love to use in those forums like IMO, BTW, PITA, WTF... how the hell do you want them to share anything in these conditions?

Also, and please don't be hurt by that, I found sometimes difficult to be understood by English or American people, just because you are not sensitive to the fact that we may not be able to speak a proper english!

BTW how many of you have ever visited some french or german FE boat. IMHO none!

[Xzessperated]

BTW how many of you have ever visited some french or german FE boat. IMHO none!

This is where you might be able to help us. I am in Australia. I think some Americans would have had the same problem as me. I have 2 German boats and I have seached for and found websites in Europe about model boats. I would love to know how people set these boats up over in Europe but I can never find a site that is in English. If you know some links to some boat sites that are written in English I am sure that would help quite a few.
Paddy

[Dr. Jet]

Regarding those of you that do not speak English as a first (or even second) language:

For the most part, you do far better than those Americans educated by our sadly inept government-operated schools. I am appalled by how few Americans know the difference between "your" and "you're" or "there", "their", and "they're". I especially find it amusing when they tell about airplanes that go "strait up verticle."

At least you Europeans TRY to speak English. The ignorant here (not hear) don't have the ambition to attempt to master their own language, nonetheless a foreign one.

[video200]

This is where you might be able to help us. I am in Australia. I think some Americans would have had the same problem as me. I have 2 German boats and I have seached for and found websites in Europe about model boats. I would love to know how people set these boats up over in Europe but I can never find a site that is in English. If you know some links to some boat sites that are written in English I am sure that would help quite a few.
Paddy

you know http://babelfish.yahoo.com/ wil translate a whole page if you copy the link of the page you need to have translated. german to english for one. shure its not 100% but wil give you a pritty good idea.

[Darin Jordan]

... but I know of a few people who will not post on this site or RR because sometimes Americans seem to have a know all attitude, whether it is so or imagened.

Well... my 2-cents is... (which I'm sure some believe is worth just about that... )

I think people tend to forget that this is a TYPED style communication... People post in haste, or briefly, and when a question is answered directly, it's taken as being "know it all", or otherwise with an attitude...

MOST of these same misunderstandings would NOT happen were we sitting on the beach talking about the same issue...

Coupled with the fact that people can respond INSTANTLY without thinking things through, and it can be taken the wrong way... and USUALLY, people seem to ASSUME it's attitude without stopping to consider that the person may have meant the LESSER of the two ways a response could be taken...

And... if someone DOES know what they are talking about, wouldn't you WANT them to post a response?? They may not "know-it-all", but perhaps they just really KNOW THIS...? Did you NOT ask the question in hopes of a helpful response??


As for European setups... If I'm not mistaken, Europe conducts their racing a little different than we do... with more emphasis on endurance as opposed to our sprint format... but I'm sure there are plenty around who would answer questions if you asked...


And Jay... I think there were beatings going on BOTH directions... There was certainly damage being inflicted from both sides of the pond... I seem to recall that there were "know-it-alls" living on both shorelines.... Any exchange between that is bound to wind up in a mess... Especially when you add the language barriers and lack of full communication being possible in a forum format... (typing, no eye contact, no voice influction, no facial expressions...)

Perhaps it's time for people to get rid of some of their harbored resentment and move on.


Personally, I've been somewhat reluctant to share too much of what I do and know simply because I got tired of the bashers using every opportunity to try to discredit me and pin the blame for their FE discontentment on my opinion... I'm still cautious, but somewhat over it and am happy to help if I think I can...

I'm always curious as to what the FE world is doing, and Europe seems to have some hull types and equipment that we don't have here... Would love to see more of this featured...

[Stealth Assassin]

Well said Darin! All of It but, mainly this....

MOST of these same misunderstandings would NOT happen were we sitting on the beach talking about the same issue...