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  • DPeterson
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 842

    #1

    P-Limited Cat

    How about re-thinking the P-Limited Cat class? I know some rules have already been prepared and submitted. Somehow it seems redundent. Another P-Limited class. "yawn"

    How about allowing up to 2 motors in this class? Alot of cats are run with dual motors inboard. I happen to have built one with dual outboards. Not sure if I would race it as I have built it for scale running. Seems allowing dual motors in this class would be a nice twist.

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    Doug
    Doug Peterson
    IMPBA 19993
    www.badgerboaters.com
  • jstolz
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 335

    #2
    Great idea Doug! I'll allow it. I'm not sure that MMEU would. It's very cool.

    Jay

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    • Darin Jordan
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Apr 2007
      • 8335

      #3
      I don't want to wade into another rules debate, but allowing "P-LTD" cat to have dual motors would negate the competitiveness of the existing cats and RTR offerings.

      However, a Dual-Powered cat with P-Ltd power systems is perfectly legal in P-Cat...

      Or, maybe run a single and a twin level of the class...???
      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #4
        I am currently building a Pro Boat Thundercat with dual Stiletto Outboards on it that will each have a P-Ltd system, so I'm right on board with the direction Doug is thinking... It's definitely a class level that needs a place to run. I was just going to run mine in P-Offshore, or, hopefully soon... P-Cat...
        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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        • T.S.Davis
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2009
          • 6221

          #5
          ugh

          I have that same Bitt at my house. Only mine is 3" wider.

          Doug, yer kill'n me. On that other rules thread you told us the cost of the open classes was a deterent. The line up for the MCup didn't have enough spec. Now you want to double the cost of the drive train for a limited class because it's a yawn fest. You toss these out there just to see if you can provoke the troll under the bridge don't you? Admit it! hahaha

          That aside. The dual outboards is way cool. Every bit I've seen was a roll over special. Do the outboards help or make it worse?
          Noisy person

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          • D. Newland
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Dec 2007
            • 1022

            #6
            FWIW, the upcoming NAMBA Cat proposal allows mulitiple motors if the Power Parameter allows it (which are P, Q, S (SAW/2-Lap) and T).

            Also, inboard or outboard power is acceptable. I did that just for you, Peterson.

            I'll have more info on the upcoming proposals shortly. Should be an entertaining thread.

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            • DPeterson
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 842

              #7
              Terry - Your cracking me up. Or maybe your not understanding me. I am fortunate to not have any cost concerns. Never said Open classes were a deterent. I simply have been following along with what I thought was the majority of racers and what they wanted to run. Hence - the P-Limited classes. Now we are going to add even more of the same. Hence - the "yawn". The other thread had to do with trying to understand when and where the popularity went from P-limited to Open. My bad for not paying closer attention.

              Not throwing anything out here except to maybe encourage some variety of classes rather than more of the same in an already full book.

              Only ran the boat once a couple years ago. It needs smaller props and I maybe have to lower the outboards.

              Darrin - Please show pics when you can.

              Doug
              Doug Peterson
              IMPBA 19993
              www.badgerboaters.com

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              • T.S.Davis
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2009
                • 6221

                #8
                I sawed one in half length wise and added 3" to it. Might have only been 1.5". It was a long time ago. Before there was even an LSO.

                Didn't Steve V (OSE). have a Titan40 with dual outboards on it? Maybe I dreamed it. What if it was a duel outboard class? Hulls may vary.

                Every class started with a group of guys saying "hey that might be fun, let's all build one"
                Noisy person

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                • Darin Jordan
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8335

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DPeterson
                  Darrin - Please show pics when you can.

                  Doug
                  Doug,

                  Here is all I have at the moment... They are mounted to the hull. I'm going to replace the tie-rod with something more towards the front to get it out of any spray.

                  I have stripped out the factory wood inside, and am working on a radio tray setup for the steering servos, etc. Hasn't been priority for the past 6 months, so I haven't done much with it, but will be tinkering on her more in the future. These hulls are pretty wide, and basically resemble the Mean Machine in design, so it should go pretty well. We have a gentleman in our club who has the same hull with dual SV27 powered REK lowers, and it FLIES! Handles very well also....
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                  Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                  "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                  • DPeterson
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 842

                    #10
                    Looks good Darin. I originally was going to bolt up a couple REKS on mine but I didn't like the look. I almost bought a couple of the Stiletto's but I already had the KMB's. The KMB's do have a nice scale look to them. Gear drive and probably not as smooth or fast as a flex drive unit. Was going after the scale look and ride so I think I'll be OK. Got a couple Proboat 1800's bolted on being powered by 2 YGE 155's. The YGE's will let me partial throttle this thing all day long. Planning on 2 4S lipos for fuel. Couple more pics. I wonder if I have the outboards too far a part?

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                    Doug Peterson
                    IMPBA 19993
                    www.badgerboaters.com

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                    • Darin Jordan
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 8335

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DPeterson
                      Couple more pics. I wonder if I have the outboards too far a part?

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                      I'm not sure... I've been told that it can be bad either way (from different sources... some say together... others say apart).... I just went with what seemed to make sense to me, and also, they fit nicely this way. I think the real boats have done them both ways as well. One way to find out!

                      Either way, it's going to be FUN, and look very cool...
                      Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
                      "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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                      • TheShaughnessy
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1431

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Darin Jordan
                        I don't want to wade into another rules debate, but allowing "P-LTD" cat to have dual motors would negate the competitiveness of the existing cats and RTR offerings.

                        However, a Dual-Powered cat with P-Ltd power systems is perfectly legal in P-Cat...

                        Or, maybe run a single and a twin level of the class...???
                        I agree. Seems like most twin cats aren't using spec power so they would fall into p-cat anyway.

                        I would love to watch twin outboard cats battle it out around the oval, I think they look awesome. Not exactly a reality here in D19, I'm just happy we have enough guys to put a p lim cat race together.

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