Setup for Whiplash GV or Backlash

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  • Fluid
    Fast and Furious
    • Apr 2007
    • 8011

    #76
    Jim, your amps are not that bad - my P Mono averages 180-190 all the time, but the temp is getting up there. Either loosening up the hull or a bit smaller on the prop will get you there. Actually, race water may be all you need. It is normal for amps to rise and rpm to fall in the turns on any FE boat, even my 4S rigger does that.



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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #77
      Forgotten about this thread..
      but love it because I have a Backlash down stairs in my over flow hobby room that I have thought about making FE
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • oscarel
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Dec 2009
        • 2127

        #78
        Hey Jim, how far down is your strut?

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        • electric
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • May 2008
          • 1744

          #79
          Originally posted by Fluid
          Jim, your amps are not that bad - my P Mono averages 180-190 all the time, but the temp is getting up there. Either loosening up the hull or a bit smaller on the prop will get you there. Actually, race water may be all you need. It is normal for amps to rise and rpm to fall in the turns on any FE boat, even my 4S rigger does that.



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          Jay, two interesting things to me. One is I went from a propworks 6719/3 blade 554 which has 5.54 inches of pitch to a ABC3016/ 2 blade and 4.8 inches of pitch(but a much bigger diameter) and I still have the equivalent top end speed, 74mph. These are two radically different props to say the least and yet they yielded the same top end? Interesting. I can only surmise that I can unload the motor a bit more, reduce the amps a bit, since I have yet to see the top end decline. I am going try some ABC props 2716/2 blade 4.32 pitch (smaller diameter prop, less pitch), and also I think I got a 2518/2 with 4.5 inches a pitch to try out.

          The second thing that I find interesting is I see the heat climbing on my Castle HV ESC yet the amp pull is within the specifications of the ESC? I do know the general rule of thumb is to stay well below the max amp reading, but I do seem to be moving within the range of the esc yet there is a steady heat build up on the esc? The math tells me what you are saying Jay, I "think" I could get my six laps in as I went .88 miles and had only used 50% of my batteries. We will see how these new props work out.
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          • electric
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2008
            • 1744

            #80
            Originally posted by oscarel
            Hey Jim, how far down is your strut?
            I will check it Oscar. Hey, are running 4000mah batteries for a total of 8000mah at 2p, or are you running more mah's?

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            • oscarel
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Dec 2009
              • 2127

              #81
              Originally posted by electric
              I will check it Oscar. Hey, are running 4000mah batteries for a total of 8000mah at 2p, or are you running more mah's?
              I'm running 7250 and never less than 30% left. That's normally 8 laps.

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              • Brushless55
                Creator
                • Oct 2008
                • 9488

                #82
                Originally posted by oscarel
                I'm running 7250 and never less than 30% left. That's normally 8 laps.

                Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
                This is good to know..
                .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                • electric
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • May 2008
                  • 1744

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Brushless55
                  This is good to know..
                  Yep, I was thinking the same exact thing. Oscar is running a backlash also, and will be racing me in just three weeks or so. Shows what a good guy he is for sharing his information freely. I am sharing the work I do on this boat for the same reason. I get the benefits of those who have knowledge on this topic and also help those who might want to do the same thing. There is very little information on setting up these "bigger" FE boats so every bit helps.

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                  • oscarel
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2127

                    #84
                    No secrets here .

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                    • Brushless55
                      Creator
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9488

                      #85
                      do this and let me know how it goes ...
                      set strut at 3/4" with 1/2* prop up in the back ....
                      and cg at 27" from back of boat
                      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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                      • electric
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2008
                        • 1744

                        #86
                        Originally posted by oscarel
                        No secrets here .
                        Great, can I borrow your prop for the race? Kidding...

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                        • electric
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • May 2008
                          • 1744

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Brushless55
                          do this and let me know how it goes ...
                          set strut at 3/4" with 1/2* prop up in the back ....
                          and cg at 27" from back of boat
                          hmmm... I will have to see where I am on the settings. I just don't have much time to look at the boat during the work week...

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                          • oscarel
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2127

                            #88
                            Originally posted by electric
                            Great, can I borrow your prop for the race? Kidding...
                            I said no secrets, I'll TELL you which prop I'm running!

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                            • electric
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2008
                              • 1744

                              #89
                              Don't you just love "waiting" for props to arrive to do the next round of testing......

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                              • oscarel
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 2127

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Brushless55
                                do this and let me know how it goes ...
                                set strut at 3/4" with 1/2* prop up in the back ....
                                and cg at 27" from back of boat
                                I'll give it a try next time I go testing. I reset mine at Voodoo since there were 30mph winds and didn't set it back.

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