High RPM on a 3/16 "flexshaft

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  • grsboats
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 975

    #1

    High RPM on a 3/16 "flexshaft

    I'm curious to see how much RPM's a 3/16 flexcable can support.I'm running saw riggers and never had a failure with my shafts( low 40K) but I'm about to test a new combo that is supposed to reach 60K ......I know there are some guys running 50K with no problems.you're welcome to share your experiences. Thanks Gill
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  • RandyatBBY
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2007
    • 3915

    #2
    It is more the voltage, power and size of the prop that limits the 3/16 flex shaft. 4S with with most all motors is OK. when you go to 6S it gets touchy.
    Randy
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    • Fluid
      Fast and Furious
      • Apr 2007
      • 8011

      #3
      I've run my SAW boats to 42,000 rpm with that size cable without problems - but I use only Hughey cables. I too wonder at what rpm the centrifugal force will contribute to cable failure - but it seems to be balanced by the tortional forces imposed by the prop. I have heard reports of others runing in excess of 50,000 rpm, but I have never witnessed this.



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      • Mike Caruso
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 940

        #4
        Originally posted by Fluid
        I've run my SAW boats to 42,000 rpm with that size cable without problems - but I use only Hughey cables. I too wonder at what rpm the centrifugal force will contribute to cable failure - but it seems to be balanced by the tortional forces imposed by the prop. I have heard reports of others runing in excess of 50,000 rpm, but I have never witnessed this.



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        • grsboats
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 975

          #5
          Mike only one soft bend.Also I only use Hughey shafts and I saw some people in Germany running boats in the mid 50k's with no issues so as I'm about to test a new rigger with a 1527 on 8S I thought it would nice hear some comments. Thanks Gill
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          • Chris Harris
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 182

            #6
            I run 3/16 cable in my 8S SAW rigger at higher than 50,000 rpm
            and I have not broken one yet. I did tweak one from a blow off
            when the prop bit when the boat landed. It is unusable now because of the bend
            in it but it still did not break. I have been running props up to 44mm
            with this setup and they are Hughey cables which in my opinion are about as good
            as cables get. Having a really good motor to cable coupler is really important.
            This is really the weakest point and with that much rpm and power that connection sees
            an incredible amount of stress. I solder the ends of my cables and this helps a lot with durability.

            Hope this helps,
            Chris
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            • RandyatBBY
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2007
              • 3915

              #7
              Hi Chris

              You been to any Olive Gardens Lately?
              Randy
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              • RaceMechaniX
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Sep 2007
                • 2821

                #8
                Likewise I have run a 1527 on 6S and once with 8S and no problems. A very true coupler is key as is a true joint at the stub shaft. The prop has to be dead nuts balanced. All of mine run a single gentle bend with Teflon liners.

                Tyler
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                • jcald2000
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 774

                  #9
                  No problems with 3/16 on 8s and Mod 452 on 1527/1y.
                  45% silver solder on cable end with 3 piece coupler and cable is polished.

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                  • grsboats
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 975

                    #10
                    Thanks guys I think that I'm in the right direction as my parts are top quality ones and I spend lot of time on my props so let see what will happen with this new challenge.Chris what do you think using a 1527 1D on 6S or better stick to a 1,5D on 8S?Jim interesting input polishing the cable !Well I have the choice of both motors so it would be nice know what the experts recommend! Thanks Gill
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                    • Chris Harris
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 182

                      #11
                      1527/1D can be good on 6S but don't over prop it. This setup
                      can be really hard on ESC's. Depending on how much pitch your running
                      I wouldn't run anything bigger than 45mm.

                      Chris
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                      • grsboats
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 975

                        #12
                        I see Chris ......I'm using a SF 300 that is supposed to handle this set up well.About props I have some in this diam 44/45mm with 3,5 to 3,7 cup. My previous test with 2047 and different cups were also good but it was with the lower kv motor.Anyway I really appreciate your help and will you all know how the boat performed soon Thanks Gill
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                        • Doug Smock
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 5272

                          #13
                          Ditto on the 45% silver on the end of the cable. Polishing isn't a bad idea either.
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                          • grsboats
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 975

                            #14
                            Yes Doug I've been doing this for the last twenty years.Thanks Gill
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                            • urbs00007
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 826

                              #15
                              chris, when you run 1527 in saw can you use motor with 5mm shaft? trying to trade my 2230 for a 1527 to run straightaway. dont want failures right off the bat !!

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