**Excellent Article on RC Boat Hull Attitude, How the adjustments affect handling**

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  • Darin Jordan
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 8335

    #1

    **Excellent Article on RC Boat Hull Attitude, How the adjustments affect handling**

    For those interested, this is a really good read concerning the handling and affects of adjustments on an R/C Boat.

    Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
    "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."
  • ray schrauwen
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Apr 2007
    • 9471

    #2
    Thank you Darin!

    Now it doesn't say much about the problem I have with my P-mono.

    I have a DF33 hull Speedmaster hardware (tapered rudder) 4092 2200Kv tp power, running a 2 blade 45mm prop or 42mm 3 blade custom.

    As soon as it gets to the 3/4 mark of a straight on the oval it evenly lifts itself out of the water, losing power and speed. It corners well though....??

    I'm going to rebuild it this winter putting the motor in the rear and cells up front. That or try a second hull but, I should not need to get another hull as this one is fine.
    Nortavlag Bulc

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    • Brushless55
      Creator
      • Oct 2008
      • 9488

      #3
      Very cool stuff..
      need to setup my DF33 PMono a little more for 2013
      .NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s

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      • keithbradley
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jul 2010
        • 3663

        #4
        Thanks for posting Darin.
        I like the part where he says "a good running boat will look slower than a poorly set up boat" .
        So true!
        www.keithbradleyboats.com

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        • Shooter
          Team Mojo
          • Jun 2009
          • 2558

          #5
          Great article. Thanks for posting. The pictorials, especially the affects of rudder angles and sizes, were very helpful.

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          • detox
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Jun 2008
            • 2318

            #6
            Her is another verygood ellectric boat manual.

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            • viper1
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 218

              #7
              Originally posted by Darin Jordan
              For those interested, this is a really good read concerning the handling and affects of adjustments on an R/C Boat.

              http://www.modelpowerboat.com/conten...-Hull-Attitude
              Good article, I studied it before but there is one thing that still confuses me, if some could explain the how and why would be fantastic.
              It concerns the strut depth,

              Under "Drives" it is stated that: "every time the bow raises the prop goes deep into water and raises the transom, counter reacting the raising of the bow - again an excessive correction raises another problem - in this case porpoising."

              This tells me that a prop going deeper in the water raises the transom (and in turn lowers the bow) right?

              Then in turn under the graphic drawings at "Propeller deep" it tells me that a lowering the prop or strut will lower the transom and raise the bow. This contradicts the above statement unless I'm missing something (and I probably do....)

              Could somebody please explain which one is right and why ?

              Thanks in advance!
              Wisdom is knowing how little we know

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              • NativePaul
                Greased Weasel
                • Feb 2008
                • 2760

                #8
                If you lower the strut you will keep it at the same angle that it was at before, the thrust ling being lower than the CoG it will tend to lift the bow under power.
                The only way for a prop to deepen whilst running is by the whole boat pitching up which makes the props thrust cone face downward so a proportion of your thrust is now lift.
                Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                • viper1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 218

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NativePaul
                  If you lower the strut you will keep it at the same angle that it was at before, the thrust ling being lower than the CoG it will tend to lift the bow under power.
                  The only way for a prop to deepen whilst running is by the whole boat pitching up which makes the props thrust cone face downward so a proportion of your thrust is now lift.
                  Thanks Paul,

                  I get the first bit, but than in second line : "the props thrust cone face downward so a proportion of your thrust is now lift". That lift will raise the transom and lower the bow again right? (And I imagine the start of porpoising here) While in the article the cure for porpoising is "Lower the strut" ?

                  Maybe I am a bit 'thick'...
                  Wisdom is knowing how little we know

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                  • Fluid
                    Fast and Furious
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8012

                    #10
                    Then in turn under the graphic drawings at "Propeller deep" it tells me that a lowering the prop or strut will lower the transom and raise the bow. This contradicts the above statement unless I'm missing something (and I probably do....)
                    No, that interpretation of the drawing (or the drawing itself) is wrong. It is well known that lowering the strut on a surface drive mono will raise the entire boat - this is why using a strut instead of a stinger is a much better tuning aid for a mono or cat. If a mono is chine walking, raising the strut will lower the hull into the water and reduce or cure chine walk. The drawing shows a submerged drive, which is pretty anachronistic today and of little use to the modern boater. Remember, just because something is on the Internet does not mean it is correct....



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