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  • sampit
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 447

    #1

    Fightercat Cheetah or Fantasm 12s

    What would the beter boat to run a single motor 12s sport setup Leopard 4092 700kv
    the FC Cheetah or the FC Fantasm?

    kind of got myself in a pickle, I have both hulls, one might have to go but not sure what way to go.
    even worse the Fantasm hull I have is a Zonda twin setup hull, long story.
    major FC esc problems with the twin setup Zonda one esc as failed before i even run one of the internal becs has blown in one of the escs, so i am unable to programme one now,
    spoke with Cathy at fliermodel she tells me i need to buy two more escs with the latest firmwear to run twin motor.WTF is she on about
    I only bought a secound 8s 250A from them last week with a full explanation and pictures of my intented setup and the esc i already had asked for advise as to what i would need to conect both escs together, supplied me with a y harness this is the one that has blown the internal bec first time i plugged in.
    One option, could I convert a esc with a blown build in bec to run on Ubec?
    Last edited by sampit; 09-12-2012, 07:40 AM.
    FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
    Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p
  • Jason4636
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 654

    #2
    From what all Keith Bradley has told me. He said the cheetah benifits more from a twin setup, cause how wide the hull is. I had him build me a single Fantasm to run 8s sport and saw on 10s. He said it should fly. But I'm going agaist his advice, I'm building me a single cheetah this winter. Going to be my first full build. But if I already knew how to fully build a boat from scratch, I would build a twin.
    If you go to get rid of one of your hulls, PM me. I'll probably take it off your hands

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    • sampit
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 447

      #3
      I just got my new 4092 700kv motor fitted in my Cheetah last night so will get to try this out on 12s at the weekend, kind of see what Keith means about the Cheetah being twined, instead of a single due to how wide it is, i find i runs flat and rocks a bit as a single, but i need to do a bit more tunning,
      One more option is that i could convert the Zonda to a single and the Cheetah to a twin using the Zonda parts, im sure i could get the to fit. could be a winter project, but do i want the hasle?

      hows you Fantasm single runing?
      Last edited by sampit; 09-12-2012, 08:16 AM.
      FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
      Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p

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      • Jason4636
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 654

        #4
        I'll let you know when I get it. Right now it's with Steve at airbrush alley. He said it should be done by this Friday. If you see him post pics of a Fantasm in the next week. It should be mine. Can't wait to see how it runs

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        • sampit
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 447

          #5
          Thats going to look the nuts for sure! some folk are born talented and from what i have seen Steve is one of them.
          Whats the setup going to be?
          FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
          Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p

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          • srislash
            Not there yet
            • Mar 2011
            • 7673

            #6
            Originally posted by sampit
            What would the beter boat to run a single motor 12s sport setup Leopard 4092 700kv
            the FC Cheetah or the FC Fantasm?

            kind of got myself in a pickle, I have both hulls, one might have to go but not sure what way to go.
            even worse the Fantasm hull I have is a Zonda twin setup hull, long story.
            major FC esc problems with the twin setup Zonda one esc as failed before i even run one of the internal becs has blown in one of the escs, so i am unable to programme one now,
            spoke with Cathy at fliermodel she tells me i need to buy two more escs with the latest firmwear to run twin motor.WTF is she on about
            I only bought a secound 8s 250A from them last week with a full explanation and pictures of my intented setup and the esc i already had asked for advise as to what i would need to conect both escs together, supplied me with a y harness this is the one that has blown the internal bec first time i plugged in.
            One option, could I convert a esc with a blown build in bec to run on Ubec?
            Did you pull one of the red wires Sam?You would need to pull one of the ESC's red wires to run one BEC.if they just got plugged in you would be firing up both BEC's and that's not good.Same goes for a UBEC,pull both red wires.

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            • sampit
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 447

              #7
              I was going to pull one of the red wires but there is no red wires to pull, I asked if i needed to pull a wire from one of the escs and what color, at fliermodel they said no need to remove any wires with the y harness, i thought that was strange, but they are the experts so conected up the esc still works, but i cant enter the programme mode when i plug it in on it own. so somethink has gone pop, i think it is just one bec
              the wire from memory are brown, orange ,black the other bec on my fc 240A still works ok.
              FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
              Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p

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              • srislash
                Not there yet
                • Mar 2011
                • 7673

                #8
                No programming sucks.Is it set for what you want for now? FYI the red is always center wire.

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                • sampit
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 447

                  #9
                  Ye both are set, but i think one esc may have the new firmwear and the other the old, this maybe why i cant get them both to fire up at the same time
                  i tried to check if both reverse setting where on, that when i found the problem.
                  I should have set it up to run each motor on it own 4s lipos, but i thought it would be better to parrellel the escs and packs.
                  FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
                  Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p

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                  • srislash
                    Not there yet
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 7673

                    #10
                    Do you have the USB link? We may be able to figure something out.I have to go to work but I can help you tonight.I got a couple of ideas. Maybe a RX pack in there to replace the one BEC.For programming.

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                    • sampit
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 447

                      #11
                      Nice! me too, just out the door myself Speak later
                      cheers

                      Sam
                      No usb link, but i have a ubec and rx pack thisit did cross my mind but i would need some advise dont want to blow the other one
                      FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
                      Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p

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                      • Jason4636
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 654

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sampit
                        Thats going to look the nuts for sure! some folk are born talented and from what i have seen Steve is one of them.
                        Whats the setup going to be?
                        My setup is a TP 4092 980Kv with a FC 16s/300a. Sport running 8s, saw runs on 10s.

                        When I build my cheetah this fall the setup in it so far, Sirius 1717 1580kv, FC 16s/300a. 5s for sport, 6s speed runs.

                        On my fantasm, I just gave steve some idea's on paint, and told him the design was totally up to him. By looking at his other paint jobs it should look killer. And I'm sure he could come up with a way better paint design than I ever could.

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                        • T.S.Davis
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6221

                          #13
                          ......um why are you putting 12s in a little tiny Cheetah hull? Does it float?
                          Noisy person

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                          • Mattwarner
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 487

                            #14
                            Sam, sell me your cheetah!!

                            I am running 9s on my 46" mono with a 740kv 5692 leo and an X457 and its easily the fastest boat ive owned, on 12s its going to be awesome!!

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                            • sampit
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 447

                              #15
                              Hi Matt
                              No worries your first in line if I do!but don't hold your breath on the Cheetah
                              It's all ready now for a 12s run just bench tested tonight, all is looking good I'm more temped to sell the Zonda if we can't sort the escs out I spent way way to much on FC escs, shipping them back to US and HK I do miss my monos
                              you will have to give me a ring sometime .
                              Yours sound like fun, how was your run time on 9s?
                              FC Cheetah TP4092 1600KV Dinogy 6s2p,Etti Envoy WE 3s, Rico Mono 31" T600 1400kv Dinogy 5100mAh 65c 6s1p
                              Popeye Hydro T600 1400kv 6s1p

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